stuvian Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'd take Saquon Barkley at #1. You'll still get a good QB at 4. There is no consensus #1 QB in this draft. All the Josh Allen hype doesn't change the fact that he's a project - the kind of which could ruin a GM. There's no telling which of the top 4 QBs will be a star. Allen is the least safe of these. Let's say that the Browns GM takes Rosen or Mayfield at 4 who goes on to have a career like Alex Smith or Phillip Rivers. That won't kill your career but whiffing on Allen at 1 would. You can't screw around with the #1 pick overall. It has to be a safe bet. Coming out with a HOF RB and a solid, occasional Pro Bowl QB is a very good draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymario Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If i was the owner and you took Saquon Barkley at #1, I would fire you before you can make pick #4. 7 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Why would we care about the Browns doing the right thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Oh, Lordy! Take the best QB at #1, then trade down from #4 for more picks. You have a roster to build, so do it around a Franchise QB, and get more picks. A RB may give you 5 good years, a Franchise QB can give you 15 at the most important position in all of sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 You would be fired. You don't mess around when you have the #1 pick and your choice of QB's in the top QB draft in a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If I was the Browns GM I would wonder what I did wrong in the past to end up being a GM for one of the worst teams in the NFL. Then I would realize that I must not be a good GM to have landed in Cleveland and any picks I make won't make the team better and I won't have any job security. So I would do the next dead man walking GM a favor as I work on my resume and trade away all the picks for the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) I agree with the OP. If Dorsey has all QB's rated the same or if you have Allen as your #1, take Barkley at 1. There is a very good chance you get Allen at 4. Minimum you get one of the top 3. I think it is the smart play. If they didn't have #4 you have to go QB. If you have Darnold as your clear #1, you must take him at 1, he won't be there at 4. It would be very similar to what the Jets did except they gave up a ton to get possibly their 3rd choice QB. The Browns would get who most believe is the #1 player in the draft and be in the same position. Most on the board love the Jets move. Edited April 23, 2018 by Bills Pimpin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Or you could take the QB that you have rated #1 and possibly get Barkley at 4. Get your #1 Qb and trade up to #2 and get Barkley. Or get your #1 QB, Chubb at 4 and draft Michel, Guice, Jones or Penny who could also be a HoF RBs. Point being, get the QB you like most, don’t let other teams dictate the future of your franchise when you have it sitting right in your hands. Drafting Barkley would be a massive mistake imo. Not because the other QBs would fail, they could be better, but because the front office lacks the balls to make the biggest decision in their franchise history. 3 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: I agree with the OP. If Dorsey has all QB's rated the same or if you have Allen as your #1, take Barkley at 1. There is a very good chance you get Allen at 4. Minimum you get one of the top 3. I think it is the smart play. If they didn't have #4 you have to go QB. If you have Darnold as your clear #1, you must take him at 1, he won't be there at 4. It would be very similar to what the Jets did except they gave up a ton to get possibly their 3rd choice QB. The Browns would get who most believe is the #1 player in the draft and be in the same position. Most on the board love the Jets move. If he has them all rated the same. Highly unlikely that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I love Barkley, but I’m not sure you can't get a better (long term career) RB in the second or third rounds. Lots of RB’s this year. I’m wrong all the time, but QB is a generational position, while RB gives you several great years, at best. Which position is more important and difficult to fill? Do it while you can, or you deserve to be fired. Don’t overthink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Smart. All GMs should go by consensus draft rankings...ALL THE TIME. I'd double down, and use the NFL.com rankings to fill my entire draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, stuvian said: I'd take Saquon Barkley at #1. You'll still get a good QB at 4. There is no consensus #1 QB in this draft. All the Josh Allen hype doesn't change the fact that he's a project - the kind of which could ruin a GM. There's no telling which of the top 4 QBs will be a star. Allen is the least safe of these. Let's say that the Browns GM takes Rosen or Mayfield at 4 who goes on to have a career like Alex Smith or Phillip Rivers. That won't kill your career but whiffing on Allen at 1 would. You can't screw around with the #1 pick overall. It has to be a safe bet. Coming out with a HOF RB and a solid, occasional Pro Bowl QB is a very good draft. Whiffing on the QB will kill a GM's career whether it's at #1 or #4. Whiffing on an RB, not so much. That's how to establish the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, stuvian said: I'd take Saquon Barkley at #1. You'll still get a good QB at 4. There is no consensus #1 QB in this draft. All the Josh Allen hype doesn't change the fact that he's a project - the kind of which could ruin a GM. There's no telling which of the top 4 QBs will be a star. Allen is the least safe of these. Let's say that the Browns GM takes Rosen or Mayfield at 4 who goes on to have a career like Alex Smith or Phillip Rivers. That won't kill your career but whiffing on Allen at 1 would. You can't screw around with the #1 pick overall. It has to be a safe bet. Coming out with a HOF RB and a solid, occasional Pro Bowl QB is a very good draft. Not happening , Dorsey is a "football" guy and is going with the prototype and taking Allen . Dorsey and Gettleman are going to win GM of the year for giving us a HOF QB !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) This year, you get the top pick....you take a QB, with this draft class. . If your front office blows that....They wont be long for the league. Edited April 23, 2018 by billsfan714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, NewEra said: If he has them all rated the same. Highly unlikely that is the case. You are correct, which is why I hated the Jets move. But, if Barkley is the highest rated guy on the Browns board, which is possible if not likely, the Browns are in a position where they guarantee they get their number one player and guarantee they get one of their highest rated if not their #1 rated QB, especially if their highest rated QB is not named Darnold. I can not remember a draft where the team with the #1 overall pick had this luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) If Dorsey doesn't take a QB at 1, I'm driving to Berea and kicking him in the sack before pick 4. I dont even care which one it is. Take your highest rated QB at 1, then make the best out of 4, and whether it be Barkley, Chubb, or trade down. Edited April 23, 2018 by cle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If I were the Browns GM I would trade Josh Gordon, and 1and 4 to the bills for Jordan Mills and Buffalo's QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: You are correct, which is why I hated the Jets move. But, if Barkley is the highest rated guy on the Browns board, which is possible if not likely, the Browns are in a position where they guarantee they get their number one player and guarantee they get one of their highest rated if not their #1 rated QB, especially if their highest rated QB is not named Darnold. I can not remember a draft where the team with the #1 overall pick had this luxury. I just disagree with any strategy that would deter a team from selecting the #1 QB on their board. This is the Browns we’re talking about. Haven’t had a QB in decades. Get the best QB. Don’t let another team dictate your choice. Not for a RB. A Rb that could be generation, I’ll give him that.....but a generational RB in a very good RB class, while they have Hyde and Johnson . Both solid backs imo. Hyde is highly underrated imo. Just needs to stay healty. i understand your point. I once shared the same thought. That if I was the browns, I’d take Barkley first. After lots of back and forth and debating, I’m now firmly convinced that taking him is just a bad move. Get the QB that you think will be the best face of your franchise for the next 15 years. It’s a no brainer. I just hope that Dorsey feels that guy is Josh Allen pulls the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Barkley will be there at #4. The Giants are not going to let go of an opportunity to draft a Franchise QB at #2. They may not get to that place again in several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, ganesh said: Barkley will be there at #4. The Giants are not going to let go of an opportunity to draft a Franchise QB at #2. They may not get to that place again in several years. Oh but they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 9 hours ago, anthonymario said: If i was the owner and you took Saquon Barkley at #1, I would fire you before you can make pick #4. Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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