PAuline: agreement in principle with giants

[KGun12TD]

17 years of garbage and people still want to play the "QB will fall" garbage. McBeane should go and get the QB they want. DONE!

[SoTier]

15 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

So basically we are moving up if the dominoes fall in place for everyone else.

 

 

 

Including the Bills.  That's what you want, though, and that's how smart GMs operate.  That's why these kind of trades happen on draft day when the team with the higher pick is on the clock.   A team doesn't trade up just to get "a player" (well, maybe if they're the Jests they do), but "the player they want".  What's the point of trading up if the guy you want is already gone?

 

Obviously, the Giants want a player that they think Cleveland might want, too.  If Cleveland doesn't take him, then they aren't trading.  If Cleveland doesn't, they open to a trade -- provided that Cleveland didn't take the player the Bills wanted. 

[Juror#8]

24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Instead of getting the hottest girl at the bar, I’m going to wait until bar closing and hopefully a non-beast will be left.  It’s a great strategy.

 

Or you could look at it like the hottest chick in the bar is in fact an escort whom you’d have to give cash to in order to get some lay. 

 

Also, you’re out of prophylactics and there is at least a 50% chance that the hottest chick in the bar has that clap. 

 

So you could stick with the non-beast chick and get some perfectly good ass that perhaps provides decades of enjoyment at no additional cost and with no concomitant risk of vd’n it up ...

 

.... or you could endeavor to turn a hooker into a housewife while hoping to avoid getting gonorrhea in the process - the latter of which is becoming increasingly difficult since you’ve used all your prophylactic money for the next three years on the chick’s escort bill and her burgeoning meth habit. 

 

Good luck. 

Edited April 18, 2018 by Juror#8

[blitzboy54]

Who's Pauline?

[reddogblitz]

Bills are gonna take who they take and I'm gonna root for them like I did with JP, Trent, Fitz, Brian Brohm, and Kyle Orton.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

Who's Pauline?

One of the girls at the bar?

[Harryhood280]

Listening to a lot of NY sports guys lately - many seem to be of the opinion that the Giants love Darnold. If CLE takes him, the Giants will trade out, if they take Allen or Rosen, the Giants stay put. 

 

If it goes Allen at 1 and Darnold at 2 to the Giants, the Bills would probably be looking at trading to 4 or 5 for Rosen or Mayfield so they don’t get jumped by someone else. 

[BigBuff423]

12 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

In your analogy it sounds like we are trading away 4 years of drafts rather than 3-4 picks. I mean once again if we take the "projected" trade we still have:

2018

1st (#2 overall)

2nd

3rd

4th

5th 

6th

 

2019

2nd

3rd

4th

5th

6th

7th

 

Um, no...you don't have a 2nd this year. Also, do you not understand how marriage / divorce works? In the original analogy it's taking home the hottest girl early in the sifting process but that analogy insinuates you get your ride, then she goes home...but in this case, if you jump on the hottest girl, because of the cost involved, it is much more like marriage and what you have to "give up" to get the hottest girl...also, like in divorce, you don't get to just dump her and walk away with nothing more than a few hours of your life inconvenienced. Like in divorce, should you decide it's not working, you've lost significant amount of money, time, effort and lost out on other women who may have been a better fit had you not been so hot to jump on the pretty girl.

 

In other words, if you're going up to the bar to hit on the girl to take her home because she's the hottest in your opinion, you better be ready to marry her and give up everything I mentioned without really knowing who she is or what she brings into your house. If we were sitting at #2, then that would much more like being set up on a blind date, where she's smokin' hot and you decide to give it a go, but what you forfeit to get her is WAAAAAAAYYYY less....because it would be just 1 pick in a single year....

[Carter]

Yes.  we are moving up to 2!!!!!

 

 

Yeeeesssssssss!!!!

amazing!!!!!!!!

 

thanks for the news op!!!

 

Darnold!!! Rosen!!!! Our franchise!!!

[Turk71]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

One of the girls at the bar?

She works at the DMV and knows someone.

Edited April 18, 2018 by Turk71

[Bill_with_it]

2 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

Um, no...you don't have a 2nd this year. Also, do you not understand how marriage / divorce works? In the original analogy it's taking home the hottest girl early in the sifting process but that analogy insinuates you get your ride, then she goes home...but in this case, if you jump on the hottest girl, because of the cost involved, it is much more like marriage and what you have to "give up" to get the hottest girl...also, like in divorce, you don't get to just dump her and walk away with nothing more than a few hours of your life inconvenienced. Like in divorce, should you decide it's not working, you've lost significant amount of money, time, effort and lost out on other women who may have been a better fit had you not been so hot to jump on the pretty girl.

 

In other words, if you're going up to the bar to hit on the girl to take her home because she's the hottest in your opinion, you better be ready to marry her and give up everything I mentioned without really knowing who she is or what she brings into your house. If we were sitting at #2, then that would much more like being set up on a blind date, where she's smokin' hot and you decide to give it a go, but what you forfeit to get her is WAAAAAAAYYYY less....because it would be just 1 pick in a single year....

So its ok to potentially waste a first round draft pick on settling for a qb ala Manuel, waiting for that “Potential” to come to fruition, and letting the fans sit through more non playoff seasons. Right now we have literally nothing in the closet capable of being a playoff qb. That doesnt change by hoping, it only changes by doing something about it. 

[CuddyDark]

So basically as we've thought for weeks, if the Browns take Darnold they'll trade down, if not they wont?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

Or you could look at it like the hottest chick in the bar is in fact an escort whom you’d have to give cash to in order to get some lay. 

 

Also, you’re out of prophylactics and there is at least a 50% chance that the hottest chick in the bar has that clap. 

 

So you could stick with the non-beast chick and get some perfectly good ass that perhaps provides decades of enjoyment at no additional cost and with no concomitant risk of vd’n it up ...

 

.... or you could endeavor to turn a hooker into a housewife while hoping to avoid getting gonorrhea in the process - the latter of which is becoming increasingly difficult since you’ve used all your prophylactic money for the next three years on the chick’s escort bill and her burgeoning meth habit. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Woaoa now who is a fun guy to have at a party?

[crack]

10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

Bills are gonna take who they take and I'm gonna root for them like I did with JP, Trent, Fitz, Brian Brohm, and Kyle Orton.

 

You didn't root for EJ?

[What a Tuel]

11 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

Um, no...you don't have a 2nd this year. Also, do you not understand how marriage / divorce works? In the original analogy it's taking home the hottest girl early in the sifting process but that analogy insinuates you get your ride, then she goes home...but in this case, if you jump on the hottest girl, because of the cost involved, it is much more like marriage and what you have to "give up" to get the hottest girl...also, like in divorce, you don't get to just dump her and walk away with nothing more than a few hours of your life inconvenienced. Like in divorce, should you decide it's not working, you've lost significant amount of money, time, effort and lost out on other women who may have been a better fit had you not been so hot to jump on the pretty girl.

 

In other words, if you're going up to the bar to hit on the girl to take her home because she's the hottest in your opinion, you better be ready to marry her and give up everything I mentioned without really knowing who she is or what she brings into your house. If we were sitting at #2, then that would much more like being set up on a blind date, where she's smokin' hot and you decide to give it a go, but what you forfeit to get her is WAAAAAAAYYYY less....because it would be just 1 pick in a single year....

 

You are equating the two in my opinion which is wrong. You may not see any perceivable difference between Rosen and Rudolph, but you better believe Beane does. If Beane wants Rosen or Darnold, he doesn't think the alternative is "smoking hot" or else he would pick them instead. He could potentially be more interested in Rudolph and that's fine, but the scenario was to simply pick whoever was left over meaning you don't get any choice, she may not be "smoking hot", she may not be someone you even find intriguing or attractive, you are picking her solely because she's a girl which is the absolute wrong way to pick a QB. 

 

Edit: The most projected trade was #12, #22, 2nd, 3rd, and 2019 1st BTW. The McCoy / Peterman / draft picks rumor isn't the consensus of what it would take to move up. So yes we would have our #2 this year, but even if we didn't the point remains, we still have a ton of picks and aren't mortgaging much of anything.

Edited April 18, 2018 by What a Tuel

[quinnearlysghost88]

37 minutes ago, BillsFanMike said:

Please stay where we are at McBean. We need to gather talent and a QB will fall in the draft. It happens every year. Build up our depth.

This mentality has us where we are today. Build up around no QB, hope one comes along. 

Edited April 18, 2018 by quinnearlysghost88

[BigBuff423]

1 minute ago, Bill_with_it said:

So its ok to potentially waste a first round draft pick on settling for a qb ala Manuel, waiting for that “Potential” to come to fruition, and letting the fans sit through more non playoff seasons. Right now we have literally nothing in the closet capable of being a playoff qb. That doesnt change by hoping, it only changes by doing something about it. 

 

Dear God....I never said, nor would any reasonable person say, the Bills shouldn't Draft a QB. But as of today, the Bills at 12, you have a great chance at getting a good to great QB. By all accounts, it might even be Rosen...but it most likely would be someone like Jackson. And don't get me started on Jackson and the tired narrative of people regurgitating the fallacies about his game. But, jumping to #7 overall to get a guy like Rosen, isn't that bad...but giving up McCoy (which I'm fine with for the right reason), two 1st, two 2nds, and a 1st next year is INSANE, IMHO....going to 7th, is probably a 3rd this year to get there and maybe a 5th next or something like that....if that's what it takes to do it, fine.....but regardless, I'm ALLLLLLLLL for Drafting a QB, just not leveraging every piece of valuable Draft assets the Bills have to do it. 

[billsbackto81]

34 minutes ago, CSBill said:

 

what's wrong with that?

Waking up in the morning trying to figure out how to kick her to the curb while she's asking you, "what's for breakfast"?

[BuffaloBillyG]

My elite sources have confirmed:

 

Buffalo will draft at 12 & 22 next Thursday. Or they will move those picks and pick somewhere else. They may pick as high as 2 and as low as 32 in round 1. Also the guy they are locked into and WILL select will be both loved and hated on these boards. 

[Malazan]

I predict no matter what the Bills do that there will be people upset about it.