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Jeremiah and Brooks: Josh Rosen Could Slide; Colts Looking to Trade

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8 hours ago, Pete said:

or we have 10 minute TD drives to run out game.

 

For all this talk about it being a QB league- where is the scoring?  Where are the huge WR stats?  AJ and Julio each had a huge game.  There were not many others this season.  Not compared to the past 10.  There are all these ticky tack penalties called.  They try and handcuff CBs as much as they can and yet the scoring is not there.  I say BS it is a QB league.  It helps.  But it is not the be all, end all.  Give me playmakers.  Give me balance and depth. Give me two good lines and a great defense and special teams.  

 

We had this in 2014. It didn't work. We had everything but the QB.

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1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

We had this in 2014. It didn't work. We had everything but the QB.

That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO.  That team was built to win and was playing great by year end.  Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together.  Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant.  !@#$ Rex.  Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex

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6 minutes ago, Pete said:

That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO.  That team was built to win and was playing great by year end.  Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together.  Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant.  !@#$ Rex.  Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex

That team had a good defense, but the QB wasn't good enough and they lost games at the end of the year that they shouldn't have. A better QB likely propels that team to a playoff berth. 

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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

That team had a good defense, but the QB wasn't good enough and they lost games at the end of the year that they shouldn't have. A better QB likely propels that team to a playoff berth. 

We could of used a better QB than Orton, but that team was still capable.  The defense blew the Oakland game, otherwise we were in the playoffs

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16 hours ago, Pete said:

or we have 10 minute TD drives to run out game.

 

For all this talk about it being a QB league- where is the scoring?  Where are the huge WR stats?  AJ and Julio each had a huge game.  There were not many others this season.  Not compared to the past 10.  There are all these ticky tack penalties called.  They try and handcuff CBs as much as they can and yet the scoring is not there.  I say BS it is a QB league.  It helps.  But it is not the be all, end all.  Give me playmakers.  Give me balance and depth. Give me two good lines and a great defense and special teams.  

 

 

Six receivers over 1200 yards. 15 over 1000. Five with over 100 catches. Fourteen with over 80. Seven with 9 TDs or more and Eighteen with eight or more. Six with twenty or more 20+ yard plays, and seventeen with fifteen or more 20+ yard plays.

 

It absolutely is a QB league.

 

2017 Receiving TDs 741

2017 Rushing TDs 380

 

I added those with a calculator rather than finding the totals somewhere, so I might have hit a wrong key, but please do check for yourself on nfl.com, team scoring. Skipped back by three years at a time.

 

2014 Receiving TDs 741

2014 Rushing TDs 381

 

2011 Receiving TDs 745

2011 Rushing TDs 400

 

Very little if any less passing TDs. It absolutely is still a QB league.

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6 hours ago, Pete said:

That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO.  That team was built to win and was playing great by year end.  Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together.  Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant.  !@#$ Rex.  Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex

 

 

Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas. They were still young and inexperienced. If he'd taken them aside and told them he couldn't work with Rex and that Rex wasn't going to be able to work with the defensive personnel there as he said, they'd almost certainly have listened to him. He was their guy at that time.

 

And as I've pointed out many times, the starters on that defense were virtually all Nix guys, with a couple pre-Nix. The Whaley guys were non-entities ... Preston Brown and Brandon Spikes if I remember correctly. If that's your idea of truffles and fois gras, you're not hired as my personal shopper.

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10 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas. They were still young and inexperienced. If he'd taken them aside and told them he couldn't work with Rex and that Rex wasn't going to be able to work with the defensive personnel there as he said, they'd almost certainly have listened to him. He was their guy at that time.

 

And as I've pointed out many times, the starters on that defense were virtually all Nix guys, with a couple pre-Nix. The Whaley guys were non-entities ... Preston Brown and Brandon Spikes if I remember correctly. If that's your idea of truffles and fois gras, you're not hired as my personal shopper.

The Pegulas hired Rex. 

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6 hours ago, Pete said:

That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO.  That team was built to win and was playing great by year end.  Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together.  Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant.  !@#$ Rex.  Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex

2004 says hello.

No reason we should have lost that season finale against Pitt; we were primed to go 10-6, great offense and good enough defense. Like him or not, Drew was a franchise type QB. Great special teams play. Fans forget that team averaged nearly 40 points a game on that five game stretch towards the end. 

I think it was the most well rounded team since Jim Kelly was the QB. 

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Good point. I feel like McDermott and Beane are more of the forward thinking variety. At least I hope that is the case. They have a really good mix of old school and new school on both the coaching staffs and scouting staffs. I still think they want Darnold or Rosen, but that could simply be my hope. Perhaps all this stuff about Rosen is being put out there by the Bills so they can grab him in that 7-10 range. Maybe they realized they can't trade up, so the best they could do is try to get their guy to slide. Can't wait to see how it all plays out. 

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

I have a hard time not seeing teams copy the KC models.  Ones with a mid-later 1st and comfortable about their playoff standings giving up 2 1sts for Rosen.  I have a hard time believing he'll slide that far.  Cardinals / Saints / Chargers / Steelers / Pats could all be reasonable teams to move up and get him. 

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15 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

 

You boys will get your wish. I hope it only costs 12 and 22.

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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

:beer::D

 

would be amazing. obviously rosen isn't getting to 12 but if can be had at 7-8 while just giving up a 2nd or 3rd look out!

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Trade 12 / 53 / 96 (1,686 points) for #6 (1,600 points).  Take Rosen

 

Trade 22 / 56 / 65 (1,385 points) for one of 8/9/10 (1,400 - 1,300 points).  Take one of Roquan / Fitzpatrick / Edmonds / James.

 

Profit.

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1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said:

Trade 12 / 53 / 96 (1,686 points) for #6 (1,600 points).  Take Rosen

 

Trade 22 / 56 / 65 (1,385 points) for 8/9/10.  Take one of Roquan / Fitzpatrick / Edmonds / James.

 

Profit.

If we end up with Rosen and Roquan, I'm going out and buying a lottery ticket.

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12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

:beer::D

Giving up zero picks would be a great coup for the Bills. That I would actually love.

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3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas

 

Doug did not hire Rex. Terry did. That much was very obvious

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1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen.

We did? Mahomes wouldn't even be a top 10 pick in this draft

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2 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen.

Throwing around generational a little loosely...

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2 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said:

2004 says hello.

No reason we should have lost that season finale against Pitt; we were primed to go 10-6, great offense and good enough defense. Like him or not, Drew was a franchise type QB. Great special teams play. Fans forget that team averaged nearly 40 points a game on that five game stretch towards the end. 

I think it was the most well rounded team since Jim Kelly was the QB. 

Drew was not the franchise type QB, and he set this team back.  He had one good year with us. Other than that I remember a statue that once threw the ball out of bounds on 4th and 10 to stop the clock

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Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen.

Generational QB prospect? 

 

So in other words, he's a once in a generation QB and better than Luck, Wentz, Wilson,  Newton, Stafford, Matt Ryan, or any other QB who has come out in the past 10 (ish) years...? 

 

He hasnt even played a single season in the NFL yet, and by all accounts he wouldn't even be one of the top 4 QBs this year. 

He also wasn't graded among the top 10 QBs in the past 3 drafts. 

 

 

 

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