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Jeremiah and Brooks: Josh Rosen Could Slide; Colts Looking to Trade

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10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Poor comparison.  Manziel was a trainwreck off the field who did not display NFL QB traits while Rosen has never been in trouble and actually shows QB skills required at the NFL level.

 

 

I didn't intend a direct comparison by any means, just the sense the negative narrative buzz around his personality needed to be addressed by a PR rep and a glowing ESPN profile.

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5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  He will not be the only one.  The QB love here is spread over a half dozen players so expect plenty of "I'm done with this team" threads as obviously we will not take more than one.  Then there will be pages of crying if the Bills stay put at 12 and go BPA which may not be a QB. 

Zealotry is very different from having a strong opinion on a player or issue. When you get to the point of character assassinating someone just because you don't like the player for whatever reason and then keep hammering away with the same lies then that is a reflection on the person expressing the ugly thoughts. There is a big difference between being passionate and being a smear mongering scoundrel. 

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8 minutes ago, jr1 said:

a guy with 4.92 speed behind our line will die :(

 

You don't need to have a fast 40 yard dash time to be successful in the nfl.  Brady ran a 5.28.  Winston is about 4.9 as well.

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3 minutes ago, HiddenInLight said:

 

You don't need to have a fast 40 yard dash time to be successful in the nfl.  Brady ran a 5.28.  Winston is about 4.9 as well.

All about being decisive with the ball and a quick delivery.

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Smerlas once said when they were chasing Kenny O'Brien of the Jets outside the pocket he would literally squeal, and then eat the ball and take the sack to protect his always-high completion percentage.  Not sure why, maybe because Mommy drove his hot tub to him, but Rosen strikes me as equally squeal worthy.  I fear, however, that instead of taking sacks like O'Brien he will start chucking it up for INTs.  And when he is criticized for INTs he blames others and also starts holding it longer and until he repeatedly gets his head driven into the ground.  Thrice concussed he then calls it quits in his third year and goes for an MBA to go with his economics degree.  Just one person's nightmare, but NO THANKS.

 

Gimme anybody else PLEASE.  I highly, highly doubt he is our guy, but if he is I will support him whole-heartedly and pray!  I fear bad things with him . . . . please become a JET!

 

 

 

 

 

If Rosen slides there will be a reason he slid.   

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1 hour ago, CuddyDark said:

Unless the Browns take Allen I believe 2 QBs will be outside the top 10. I've always believed Allen and Rosen were vastly overrated and are not top 10 QBs. Teams could trade up, we'll see.

Care to explain why Rosen is VASTLY overrated given the numbers he put up in the PAC on a team with a mediocre offensive line and average receivers?

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26 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Frank Ragnow in the 2nd and Wyatt Teller in the 3rd please. That's a great young core with Dion Dawkins.

 

An offensive line with a guy name Frank is so blue collar. And we know blue collar and Buffalo go together like roast beef on a kimmelweck roll.

 

BTW, has anyone mentioned how imperative it is to get a QB who can throw in the Buffalo weather?

 

This length of this offseason is only surpassed by the length of winter in WNY.

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57 minutes ago, JohnC said:

How many western society is collapsing threads do you think the Thurmonator will start if the Bills select Rosen? Let the unceasing character assassination begin! :P

 

Well, I don't love Rosen's attitude either, but if he wins football games I don't care. I don't watch interviews anyways. 

Really what worries me about him is that he looks tiny and frail and has a bad history with injury. 215 is pretty small. 

 

5 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 And we know blue collar and Buffalo go together like roast beef on a kimmelweck roll.

 

Now I'm hungry. 

 

That WNY delicacy is impossible to find anywhere else. 

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any scenario where we get a top dawg QB without giving up much more draft captial is ideal. Just coming to an agreement in what represents a top dawg is the on going debate

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

2018 NFL Draft: Josh Rosen could slide; Colts looking to trade

With 10 days to go until the 2018 NFL Draft, I spoke to several sources around the league this weekend as I gathered intel for my next mock draft (dropping on Tuesday). Now, I'm always a little skeptical of the buzz this time of year with so much draft misinformation being circulated, but when I'm hearing the same things from at least a few different teams, I give it a little more validity. Here are 10 things I'm hearing from multiple clubs.

 

1) Josh Rosen is the QB most likely to slide: Everyone I've talked to around the league believes there will be three quarterbacks selected within the first five picks of the draft. That means someone out of the "big four" QBs -- USC's Sam Darnold, Wyoming's Josh Allen, Oklahoma's Baker Mayfield and UCLA's Rosen -- could slide a little bit. When I bring up this topic with personnel executives, Rosen is the one they point to as the most likely slider of the group. I personally believe Rosen is the second-best quarterback in the draft class behind Darnold, but the former Bruins QB might fall out of the top 10. Why? Part of it comes back to the durability concerns for Rosen that we've heard about throughout the process. We'll continue to hear people question his intangibles as a leader, but that's far less of a concern than the fact that he missed half his sophomore year with a shoulder injury and suffered two concussions last season.

 

3) Colts are looking to trade down again: The Colts' roster is in bad shape and many around the league expect them to trade down from the No. 6 spot to gain more draft picks. As you'll recall, Indianapolis traded down from the No. 3 spot in a deal with the Jets last month. I would keep an eye on teams like the Bills and Cardinals as potential trade partners should their quarterback of choice make it to Indy's pick at No. 6.

 

8) Bills could go heavy on OL: The Bills have an obvious need for a long-term answer at the quarterback position, but they also have several holes to fill along the offensive line. They've lost three key starters in the offseason: Eric Wood (injury), Cordy Glenn (traded to Bengals) and Richie Incognito (placed on reserve/retired list). If they don't trade up for a quarterback, expect them to heavily address the offensive line in the first three rounds.

I'm guessing the Colts may value 2019 picks a bit more than expected/other teams.  They have the 6 pick and three seconds already this year.  Just a guess but if they truly want to move down again, they might desire adding one this year and one next to diversify a bit.  That would give them 5 picks in the first two rounds this year and 5 next.

 

I'd still be surprised if they passed up Chubb/Barkley if there.  Maybe they could get a guy like Smith at 12 but they would be afraid of Miami at 11, no?

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4 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Well, I don't love Rosen's attitude either, but if he wins football games I don't care. I don't watch interviews anyways. 

Really what worries me about him is that he looks tiny and frail and has a bad history with injury. 215 is pretty small.

 

Rosen may be the best passer in this draft. He reminds me of Goff with his picturesque form. However, as you pointed out I am also concerned with his durability. He has already taken a beating. He's only twenty years old and has time to bulk up and get thicker. With respect to his interviews I really don't care that much. He's entitled to his opinions; and I'm entitled to ignore them. What I do know about him is that he is dedicated to the game and to be the best. 

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48 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Care to explain why Rosen is VASTLY overrated given the numbers he put up in the PAC on a team with a mediocre offensive line and average receivers?

His Oline is so mediocre his LT will probably be a 1st round pick and his center a 3rd round pick. Out of all the QBs Rosen probably played with the best Oline talent.

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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Has Connelly I mean Rosen been declared out for the season yet?

What's funny is you dont mention Mayfield in that same breath. Ya know a guy who also has concussion history.

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If the Colts want to trade down, why aren't we getting #6 right now?  We can then sell the Giants they are getting one of Barkley / Nelson / Chubb at #6 as part of a deal to #2.

 

 

12 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

So the colts "didn't want to trade out of the top 10" until...now?

 

<_<

 

 

They knew moving to 6 would open up another deal back and the Jets gave them a sweet heart deal.

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7 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

What's funny is you dont mention Mayfield in that same breath. Ya know a guy who also has concussion history.

Yeah, I don't understand that, either. They've both suffered multiple concussions yet we only tend to hear about Rosen's. Perhaps it's the additional shoulder and knee injuries he's suffered along the way?

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54 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Rosen may be the best passer in this draft. He reminds me of Goff with his picturesque form. However, as you pointed out I am also concerned with his durability. He has already taken a beating. He's only twenty years old and has time to bulk up and get thicker. With respect to his interviews I really don't care that much. He's entitled to his opinions; and I'm entitled to ignore them. What I do know about him is that he is dedicated to the game and to be the best. 

 

Is that what you know, or what you need to know about him? 

Not looking for an argument, just checking. ;P

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