baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 more and more I am thinking they will pick Rosen at 5,6 or 7 allen darnold Mayfield Barkely Denver have a friend who lives in Denver the thought is they are not taking a qb. chubb or trade down indy has all but announced they want to trade down so you would think 5 or 6 is the sweet spot the cost tbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: This is completely incorrect. To say their is no correlation to college stats and future NFL success is wrong. You wont find a lot of quarterbacks that have found big time success in the NFL who: Started less than 25 games in college Won less than 20 games in college Had a winning pct under 60% Had a comp % under 57% Threw for less than 200 yards/gm Threw for less than 1.5 Tds/Gm and threw more than 1.0 int/gm There are anomalies in every case, but to say it cant be used as some sort of predictor of future success I think is inaccurate. On the field play may trump stats, but in many cases you cant have one without the other. The stats he quoted mean nothing as I posted the1st time. See Manziel as a prime example: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/johnny-manziel-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: The stats he quoted mean nothing as I posted the1st time. I see your point on the Rudolph stats. My only point here is this, if I am trying to decide between two guys like Jackson and Rudolph I am generally going to go with the guy with stats closer to the average of quarterbacks who have found success in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I see your point on the Rudolph stats. My only point here is this, if I am trying to decide between two guys like Jackson and Rudolph I am generally going to go with the guy with stats closer to the average of quarterbacks who have found success in the league. Scouting by stats will lead to a wasted draft pick on a guy like Mason. Jackson is much more talented and played in an NFL system with more complex route combinations. Edited April 11, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: No confusion. Just analyzing as much as possible and prior performance has to at least count for a little something, doesn't it? I'm NOT saying it is at all a primary deciding factor... just a factor. Rudolph 65% and 5,000 yds... Allen 56% and 1,800 yds. last year. Just something to look at. This makes sense. Overall I think you can use stats to strongly argue certain players won't work out (guys like Allen who didn't produce), but there's no correlation between elite production and NFL success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not buying into the late hype for him either. I take every QB review this time of year with a grain of salt. So many "experts" with opposite opinions. You never know who is being paid to shill for certain players by agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: I take every QB review this time of year with a grain of salt. So many "experts" with opposite opinions. You never know who is being paid to shill for certain players by agents. I don't. I watch prospects under game conditions to see whether analysts' assessment matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Jackson is garbage. Please look at the games he played against quality defenses and not his padded stats against Duke. TaxSlayer bowl 13 of 31 171 yards and 4 INT's. He is just a gimmick QB who pads his stats against under talented undisciplined defenses. He is Tyrod/RGIII 2.0. I agree, also like to add. His lower half really gets me, makes me wonder if he ever worked his lower half of his body. Big NFL players landing on him will break him in half IMO. Sadly it would be so Billsy to take him and screw up such a good QB class to pick from. The others do well in the NFL and the one we get is on IR most of his career if he even finishes his first contract. Run Jackson Run, I can imagine everyone cringing everytime he runs in hope he doesn't get snapped in half with those toothpick legs. Edited April 11, 2018 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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