Pete Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: OK now name all those examples of back up QB's winning superbowls.. 1990 Giants had a backup... No matter how many times you slice it. Teams with better than average QB situations make the playoffs more often and represent in the Superbowl more often. Yes you can have anomalies but nobody plays their cards on anomalies they play the odds a better then average QB would not represent Buffalo in Superbowl on his own. They need help. A QB will not stop 4 and goal from the 3 with :02 left. We need offense. We need defense. We need special teams. Balance is nice. Andrew Luck is a top QB(and probably better then any QB in this draft). Well he hasn't done much in his career- because he doesn't have the team. Give me the team over the QB. Give me the Vikes roster over the Colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: Lol. Lets just say the bread is the offensive line. Without those two lovely little covers there is no hamburger and its just exposed...rotting slab of meat. Nah. It's just Atkins friendly then. An offense without a bun(defense), can still be very enjoyable with the right enhancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Pete said: the 1985 bears, 1990 giants, 2002 bucs, and 2000 Ravens disagree So 4 out of *52 Super Bowl Winners... Edited April 10, 2018 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, OJABBA said: So, just suck this season, so you might be in a better position to draft a QB, because you sucked? But you don't want to suck because your Oline is crap, you want to have an okay Oline, and suck because the QB sucks? Don't worry, they are gonna suck this season either way, so why not get the QB now? I said to get the QB now. The 2019 pick though is the last thing that should be added. That’s the best asset. Start with 12, 22, 53 and 65. That’s a big offer. Add assets from there (96, 56, next year’s 3rd, etc...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Already known. Get the QB and continue to rebuild into the future. Tell the season ticket holders that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, Misterbluesky said: Tell the season ticket holders that. Yeah. I'm sure they'd be ticked off about the new front office finally filling the 22 year long void at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah. I'm sure they'd be ticked off about the new front office finally filling the 22 year long void at QB. Once again,you're assuming the new QB will the greatest thing since sliced bread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Once again,you're assuming the new QB will the greatest thing since sliced bread. Better to not try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Richie came to Buffalo through FA. Guards are important to the offense, but are easier to find in the draft in rounds 3-5 or via FA. No reason to panic, i am glad the Bills found out now instead of a week before training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Pete said: a better then average QB would not represent Buffalo in Superbowl on his own. They need help. A QB will not stop 4 and goal from the 3 with :02 left. We need offense. We need defense. We need special teams. Balance is nice. Andrew Luck is a top QB(and probably better then any QB in this draft). Well he hasn't done much in his career- because he doesn't have the team. Give me the team over the QB. Give me the Vikes roster over the Colts Yeah ok.. You have your opinion. but your post and your replies failed to change the fact that the majority of playoff and superbowl teams require a better than average QB. Your odds go up significantly with the QB..... The team around the QB can be filled much more easily than getting a solid QB Edited April 10, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 If that's what it takes to make the deal then yes, but I'd prefer not to. Also depends who we're dealing with and whether they prefer picks this year or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: 100% would be open if we think he’s the guy I second this! The OL can be filled in on short notice hopefully in some kind of acceptable manner, and then improved upon over time. The key, as always, is the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Once again,you're assuming the new QB will the greatest thing since sliced bread. In fairness, aren't you assuming the same about any other position player you take instead of a QB? Is it any more of a guarantee that 1st round OL, LB, WR, etc., is going to pan out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, Fadingpain said: I second this! The OL can be filled in on short notice hopefully in some kind of acceptable manner, and then improved upon over time. The key, as always, is the QB. Truly, you’ll never hear a GM say “we saw a franchise qb but we are just really weak at LG and couldn’t make the move” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 You would have to be nuts to trade a top 5 pick. Everyone knows this team is going to be horrid next year. I'm not trading a top 5 pick, 12th and 22nd. Not one player in NFL is worth that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: In fairness, aren't you assuming the same about any other position player you take instead of a QB? Is it any more of a guarantee that 1st round OL, LB, WR, etc., is going to pan out? You are 100% correct...but I wouldn't be giving up my remodeled kitchen to take a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Just wondering what you guys think. Its a tough sell for me now. Imagine taking a guy like Rosen with health issues already and some key holes on the O line. Could be a rough year and a rough record. We could be giving up a high pick next year if the 2019 1st is offered. Yep get a top QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSH HUFF Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I think you keep your picks and grab 1 O-lineman with one of your first picks if he is worthy of a first pick. Without a good O-line it doesn't matter who your QB is. Remember David Carr as a rookie, the guy got destroyed and never was the same!! Year Team G GS Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A TD Int Rtg Att Yds Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL 2002 HOU 16 16 233 444 52.5 2,424 5.8 9 15 62.8 59 282 4.8 3 76 411 21 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: You are 100% correct...but I wouldn't be giving up my remodeled kitchen to take a player. That remodeled kitchen sure looks nice attached to that shanty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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