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3 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

Its April and it snowed here. It has been below freezing. It was like 20 degrees last night.

 

Point being, they are going to California. Maybe they slipped his agent 200 bucks to say Darnold couldn't make it here and they all will sadly have to go to Cali to see him.

Going to be 92 today in LA. Any way you slice it Sam better get ready for cold weather. 

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32 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said:

They've been trying to set something up with Lamar, but he hasn't texted back yet. 

Not sure he knows how to text, did you see his WLscore? Might be waiting forever for that text, lol..

Darnold,Rosen, Mayfield is what I covet for my Bills. Move up and get it done.

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54 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

In my humble opinion it will take 2 miracles to get Darnold who I consider the best all around qb in this draft. #1 The Browns will have to be dumb enough to take Allen or Rosen. I don't see this happening but if it does we wait for miracle #2.

The Giants have to also pass on Darnold and be willing to deal with us?  We're going to need some divine intervention. If these 2 scenarios don't pan out I think we stay put and try to land R Smith @12 and Rudolph @ 22.

Or, the Browns deal with the Bills directly, and the Bills manage to trade all the way up to #1.

 

I know this is unlikely given the criticism that the Browns have received for failing to pull the trigger on top drawer QBs like Wentz. And there is a new GM in town for the Browns who appears to be competent.

 

However, I still can't get it out of my head that the Browns opted to trade the #65 overall pick for Tyrod Taylor. Perhaps, a stretch -- but what if they really like Lamar Jackson as the heir apparent to Tyrod? They could wind up with the QB they want at 12, plus multiple other 1st and 2nd round picks from the Bills.

 

This is all very unlikely, I know, but what if Beane went nuts and made Cleveland an offer they simply could not refuse?

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1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Going to be 92 today in LA. Any way you slice it Sam better get ready for cold weather. 

I was about to post the same comment about the weather....but in my version, I think the Bills staff are just thinking "Hey, why not take a trip and see some palm trees!"

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I have always thought it was Donald they liked best going back to that report from the West Coast last year those leaks that come out of the West Coast seem to be the most reliable in the bills organisation. Now whether they can put something together or not will be another story but if the Browns are indeed going to go with Alan I have to thank we're going to try our hardest to get the two.

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2 hours ago, BrotherChazz said:

They've been trying to set something up with Lamar, but he hasn't texted back yet. 

Well that explains why such a delay. They need to fax Lamar's mom!

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Interesting.  I wonder if we visit any other USC or UCLA players while out there?  Does UCLA have a QB??  is this a fantastic smokescreen?  

 

this time of year is great.  

 

 

54 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said:

I have always thought it was Donald they liked best going back to that report from the West Coast last year those leaks that come out of the West Coast seem to be the most reliable in the bills organisation. Now whether they can put something together or not will be another story but if the Browns are indeed going to go with Alan I have to thank we're going to try our hardest to get the two.

 

perhaps the Browns would trade us their 1 if we are in on Darnold and believe that Allen will be there at 4?  

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3 hours ago, Pete said:

I too think this is how it is going to go down.  Both 1st's, one 2nd, and Jerry Hughes?

Plus probably a 2019 3rd 

If they trade up.... it’s more than likely gonna take a pick next year as well. 

 

12, 22, 56 (maybe a player) plus 2019 3rd.

 

Let AJ play, Rookie will learn. AJ plays well and you trade for a higher 3rd in 2019....

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The perspective on this from Browns media is that this is smart of the Bills to try to flush out the Browns pick before trading to 2. The reasoning is that it’s very late in the #process for a full blown workout. They want to make sure the Browns take him at 1 so the Giants guy is gone and their trade goes through.  The Browns can try to stop the workout by giving Darnold a confidential promise that he’s going 1 and not to risk injury by working out for the Bills. Then the Bills know he’s the first pick and can know 2 is viable.

 

thoughts?

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Honestly I have never really given Darnold a 2nd thought...

 

I just assume Cleveland will take him and he's gone at #1 overall...

 

If the Bills came out of this Draft with Darnold I would be absolutely floored from shock...B-)

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

The perspective on this from Browns media is that this is smart of the Bills to try to flush out the Browns pick before trading to 2. The reasoning is that it’s very late in the #process for a full blown workout. They want to make sure the Browns take him at 1 so the Giants guy is gone and their trade goes through.  The Browns can stop the workout by giving Darnold a confidential promise that he’s going 1 and not to risk injury by working out for the Bills. Then the Bills know he’s the one.

 

thoughts?

 

Hmmm...

 

Well...Interesting theory if nothing else...B-)

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7 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

Honestly I have never really given Darnold a 2nd thought...

 

I just assume Cleveland will take him and he's gone at #1 overall...

 

If the Bills came out of this Draft with Darnold I would be absolutely floored from shock...B-)

 

Hmmm...

 

Well...Interesting theory if nothing else...B-)

And it would make sense as to why they are going there instead of having him come to OBD like they did the others. They can’t schedule a workout at OBD.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

And it would make sense as to why they are going there instead of having him come to OBD like they did the others. They can’t schedule a workout at OBD.

 

It really makes sense...

 

Which is a pretty hard thing to say at this time of the Draft process normally...:lol:

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15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The perspective on this from Browns media is that this is smart of the Bills to try to flush out the Browns pick before trading to 2. The reasoning is that it’s very late in the #process for a full blown workout. They want to make sure the Browns take him at 1 so the Giants guy is gone and their trade goes through.  The Browns can try to stop the workout by giving Darnold a confidential promise that he’s going 1 and not to risk injury by working out for the Bills. Then the Bills know he’s the first pick and can know 2 is viable.

 

thoughts?

 

Beane is playing 4D chess!!

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3 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

Its April and it snowed here. It has been below freezing. It was like 20 degrees last night.

 

Point being, they are going to California. Maybe they slipped his agent 200 bucks to say Darnold couldn't make it here and they all will sadly have to go to Cali to see him.

It's sad they are going out there...have him pitch some here in a short sleeve t shirt and shorts on the outdoor field.we'll see what he's made of.Allen would have been out there today or tomorrow in nothing more than a jock strap and nike turf shoes if asked.

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4 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

It's sad they are going out there...have him pitch some here in a short sleeve t shirt and shorts on the outdoor field.we'll see what he's made of.Allen would have been out there today or tomorrow in nothing more than a jock strap and nike turf shoes if asked.

Ha. Not sure if sarcasm but no on field workouts allowed at the visits to the the facility. 

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....still don't see McBeane going "all in" draft capital wise on ONE player.......hunch that he holds at 12, and sees which one of the four purported top dawgs fall to him.......if all are gone, he has time until the 22 spot to figure out Plan B......if the dawgs are all gone, he may go OL/DL/LB at 12........perhaps Rudolph is his target at 22......does he take him or gamble he falls into the 2nd, going OL/DL/LB again at 22?......if he gambles on Rudolph falling to 2nd and he's gone, is Falk his next candidate?.......clear as mud IMO.....no matter what, McBeane ends up "damned if he does...damned if he doesn't".........stay tuned........

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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ha. Not sure if sarcasm but no on field workouts allowed at the visits to the the facility. 

Well..the bottom line for me..I want Allen or Mayfield.

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Mike Schoop has dedicated most of his show to this story so far today.


His thesis in a nutshell:

 

It is likely that you will need to pick 1 or 2 to get Sam Darnold.

 

The Bills would not go out there if they did not think they at least had a shot at getting him.  

 

Therefore, the Bills are scheming to get to #1 or #2.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Beane is playing 4D chess!!

Want more? Mary Kay Cabot believes teams in the top 5 are actually competing with each other on the Bills trade down because they want 12 and 22 in this draft. With the QBs going high there are going to be elite talent pushed down and she believes Dorsey wants to get his QB, DB and LT all in the 1st this year  which he can do by trading with the Bills. She thinks the Bills actually have leverage.

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Ya know what was insane that I heard today was Colin Cowherd propose in a mock draft (he called it his dream draft) that the Patriots trade up to #1 and draft Darnold.  But the insane part was the price: Two 2018 late 1st round picks, two 2018 late 2nd round picks and the Patriots' 2019 1st round pick.

 

That's absolutely nuts.

 

If that's all it costs to move up to #1, I hope Beane offers that up to Cleveland today to ensure drafting the QB he covets the most.

 

 

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4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This might be a good idea. Maybe Cleveland will find his feet too small

OR

Forget his name when drafting

 

 

Rumor has it Hue Jackson was "blown away" by TT...

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Yeah, does it make sense to travel to LA 2 weeks before the draft for a QB that Nobody thinks slips past #1 or #2? As Schoop proposed today, that seems like a colassal waste of time unless they see a path to him.....especially this close to the draft.

I stand by my choice, Rosen, but I can't see why they would do this if they didn't think they were at least capable of landing this guy. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Want more? Mary Kay Cabot believes teams in the top 5 are actually competing with each other on the Bills trade down because they want 12 and 22 in this draft. With the QBs going high there are going to be elite talent pushed down and she believes Dorsey wants to get his QB, DB and LT all in the 1st this year  which he can do by trading with the Bills. She thinks the Bills actually have leverage.

 

How awesome would it be for the Bills to have the Browns and the Giants bidding to trade down. There is no doubt an elite player will fall to 12 with all the QBs being drafted.

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