Who to Draft @ #12 if ...

[jahnyc]

I would take Allen if he was there, but I don't think he will be.  If Allen also was gone, I would go Roquan Smith (LB-Georgia) or Calvin Ridley (WR-Alabama).  MLB and WR are big needs on this team as of now.

[BuffaloRebound]

I think 12 is too high for Jackson, but I guess you have to over-draft QB's.  12 is a good spot to take Allen, but if 4 QB's go before 12 a Blue chip player like Derwin James or Roquan Smith will be there.  I'd take Allen at 12 first, then if all 4 top QB's are gone, I'm taking one of blue chip position players that fall.  

[White Linen]

28 minutes ago, Looper said:

Allen could fall if  1-Darnold, 2-Chubb/Barkley, 3-Rosen, 4-Chubb/Barkely and the Broncs don't take QB. That would get Allen to #11 to the Fins. 

 

If Allen is there the Broncos take him, IMO.    

Edited March 26, 2018 by White Linen

[Seventeen]

9 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players

Land of 10 predictions for first round

1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2. New York Giants — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
3. New York Jets — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5. Denver Broncos — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
6. Indianapolis Colts –Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State
8. Chicago Bears — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
9. San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State
10. Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11. Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
12. Buffalo Bills — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
13. Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
14. Green Bay Packers — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA
15. Arizona Cardinals — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
16. Baltimore Ravens — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
17. Los Angeles Chargers — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
18. Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
19. Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan
20. Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
21. Cincinnati Bengals — Arden Key DB, LSU
22. Buffalo Bills — Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
23. Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
24. Carolina Panthers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
25. Tennessee Titans — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame
26. Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington
27. New Orleans Saints — Connor Williams, G/T, Texas
28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College
30. Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
31. New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
32. Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma

Would love this draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

All depends on the G-men and whether they take Rosen at #2 - then Mayfield goes #3 to the Jets and Allen #5 to the Broncos.

 

[LedyardCTbillsfan]

I would say BPA at 12 but if somehow Allen slides to 22 I would take a chance on him there.

[John from Riverside]

Jackson or best lb on the board

[Deep Voice]

20 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players

12. Buffalo Bills — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma

 

 

YEAH

[RPbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Looper said:

We don't move up and ...

 

Darnold / Rosen / Mayfield are gone and ...

 

The Cards and Chargers are still @ 15 & 17 but the Steelers or the Saints have moved up before #22 and want a QB. 

 

Allen ? Jackson ? Rudolph ?  Or none of them ? 

Unless Arizona comes up I see only Darnold and Rosen going in the top 11 picks.  Browns and Jets going QB.

 

Giants and Browns at 2 & 4 are taking a different direction, Broncos and Colts may use their position to trade out with a team like Arizona who may decline based on Mayfield, Allen, Jackson and to a lesser degree Rudolph being available and only Buffalo positioned to take a QB ahead of them.

 

So I honestly see the Bills having their pick of Mayfield, Allen, Jackson or Rudolph at 12 and not seeing another highly probable QB team need other then Arizona at 15.

 

The question is, if this scenario plays out, who do the Bills select?

[Seventeen]

2 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:

Unless Arizona comes up I see only Darnold and Rosen going in the top 11 picks.  Browns and Jets going QB.

 

Giants and Browns at 2 & 4 are taking a different direction, Broncos and Colts may use their position to trade out with a team like Arizona who may decline based on Mayfield, Allen, Jackson and to a lesser degree Rudolph being available and only Buffalo positioned to take a QB ahead of them.

 

So I honestly see the Bills having their pick of Mayfield, Allen, Jackson or Rudolph at 12 and not seeing another highly probable QB team need other then Arizona at 15.

 

The question is, if this scenario plays out, who do the Bills select?

 

I say Allen, but most here will say Mayfield.

[vincec]

19 minutes ago, Looper said:

 

All depends on the G-men and whether they take Rosen at #2 - then Mayfield goes #3 to the Jets and Allen #5 to the Broncos.

 

Very possible that the Broncos take Chubb in that scenario. Or Barkley if the Browns have taken him already. It's honestly hard to imagine that QBs would go 4 our of the first 5 picks. Nothing close to that has ever happened in the history of the draft that I'm aware of.

[Seventeen]

18 minutes ago, vincec said:

Very possible that the Broncos take Chubb in that scenario. Or Barkley if the Browns have taken him already. It's honestly hard to imagine that QBs would go 4 our of the first 5 picks. Nothing close to that has ever happened in the history of the draft that I'm aware of.

 

True, but I don't think we've ever seen 4 QBs hyped like this year and so many teams needing QBs. 

[Buff76ers]

I may be crazy, but I think you go with Allen at 12 or the best LB available.  If Allen is not there, Rudolph should be at 22. 

[1billsfan]

52 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players

Land of 10 predictions for first round

1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2. New York Giants — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
3. New York Jets — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5. Denver Broncos — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
6. Indianapolis Colts –Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State
8. Chicago Bears — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
9. San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State
10. Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11. Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
12. Buffalo Bills — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
13. Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
14. Green Bay Packers — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA
15. Arizona Cardinals — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
16. Baltimore Ravens — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
17. Los Angeles Chargers — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
18. Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
19. Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan
20. Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
21. Cincinnati Bengals — Arden Key DB, LSU
22. Buffalo Bills — Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
23. Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
24. Carolina Panthers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
25. Tennessee Titans — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame
26. Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington
27. New Orleans Saints — Connor Williams, G/T, Texas
28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College
30. Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
31. New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
32. Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma

Would love this draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Not a chance in you no where that Lamar Jackson gets past the Cardinals, Chargers, Bengals, Saints, Steelers or Jaguars. Totally out of the realm of possibility.

 

[MarlinTheMagician]

Allen all day long.  But i fear no way in hell he lasts to twelve.  I don't think he makes it past five.

[Tyrod's friend]

1 hour ago, MC Hamburg said:

NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players

Land of 10 predictions for first round

1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2. New York Giants — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
3. New York Jets — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5. Denver Broncos — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
6. Indianapolis Colts –Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State
8. Chicago Bears — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
9. San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State
10. Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11. Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
12. Buffalo Bills — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
13. Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
14. Green Bay Packers — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA
15. Arizona Cardinals — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
16. Baltimore Ravens — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
17. Los Angeles Chargers — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
18. Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
19. Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan
20. Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
21. Cincinnati Bengals — Arden Key DB, LSU
22. Buffalo Bills — Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
23. Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
24. Carolina Panthers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
25. Tennessee Titans — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame
26. Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington
27. New Orleans Saints — Connor Williams, G/T, Texas
28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College
30. Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
31. New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
32. Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma

Would love this draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Improbable on so many levels, but any outcome where Baker Mayfield is available at 12 would be great.

Like most of you, Evans over Hughes at 22. Or Vea, or McGlinchey or Williams. But those are gravy. 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Looper said:

 

True, but I don't think we've ever seen 4 QBs hyped like this year and so many teams needing QBs. 

It may be the perfect  storm for this to happen since the rookie cap was put in. Quite a few QB needy teams, other teams with aging vets. Not as much elite talent elsewhere at the top of this draft, and a weak QB class on the horizon in 2019. Could add up to a draft first. 

[TigerJ]

If Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield are gone, I would jump at the chance to draft Allen, though he's not going to start a game for at least a year, or maybe longer IMO.  If all four are gone, I'm planning on drafting a QB at 22 or in the second round depending on how the draft flows.  At #12, I''ll be looking at players like Edmunds, Roquon Smith, Calvin Ridley, or maybe a DT like Vita Vea.

[NeverOutNick]

I'm really surprised so many are saying Jackson. Hard to picture any QB outside the top 4 having a chance at being franchise guys we can consistently win with the next 10+ years. That being said our FO didn't trade up to 12 for Jackson. I'd bet money he could be had at 21 and even then I'd pass on him (way less accurate than Vick coming out), Rudolph (looks the part but it's a mirage, very below average decision making...watch an entire OK state game) and every other QB past the top 4 in this class. 

 

If we're not going after one of the top 4 QBs (Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Mayfield) getting Roquan Smith (a Lavonte David clone) or Tremaine Edmunds (reminds me of Urlacher) at pick 12 would be amazing. Then we go BPA the rest of the way. 

 

We'll get our franchise QB eventually (hopefully we get one of the top 4) but no point in forcing it with guys who don't fit (i.e. Losman and Manuel). Hopefully in the meantime we have a better version of Andy Dalton in AJ McCarron.

[TigerJ]

I find Jackson intriguing, and wouldn't mind him at 22, but I think he's a reach at #12.  He's going to take some time to develop like a lot of prospects.

[Green Lightning]

2 hours ago, Looper said:

Allen could fall if  1-Darnold, 2-Chubb/Barkley, 3-Rosen, 4-Chubb/Barkely and the Broncs don't take QB. That would get Allen to #11 to the Fins. 

And they could have him. I just think he's going to be a huge bust.