Roundybout Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 On one hand, his accuracy has improved every year since he started. On the other hand, can we please just get a damn pocket passer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: I like Lamar he is gone in the top 15. He has every tool. He is the next Mike Vick. One of the draft previews called him Mike Vick with a better head on his shoulders. I'd take that in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If they can't get the guy they want (I don't believe for a minute it is Jackson), just pass on a QB in the 1st round. Not interested in Losmaning the draft (picking a 2nd or 3rd option). That said, I'd do everything in my power to get the guy I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: On one hand, his accuracy has improved every year since he started. On the other hand, can we please just get a damn pocket passer? This is the complaint that I get most frustrated with. He mostly passes the ball from the pocket. He is not in the vein of Tyrod Taylor who prefers to scramble outside of the pocket and throw on the run. He either passes from the pocket or sprints forward like a RB on designs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If Josh Allen falls to 12 take him if not take Lamar Jackson. At 22 take a LB keep all our other picks and build. I’m ok with AJ McCarron starting at QB first game of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I'd take Jackson in RD2, for sure. Assuming the top 4 QBs are gone: 12.) 1a. Vita Vea 1b. Roquan Smith 22.) 1a. Rashaan Evans 1b. Taven Bryan I would take Rudolph at 22 under the right scenario, but perhaps that's desperation on my end. If he is there at 53, why take him at 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, wppete said: If Josh Allen falls to 12 take him if not take Lamar Jackson. At 22 take a LB keep all our other picks and build. I’m ok with AJ McCarron starting at QB first game of the season. If by some wizardry Roquan falls past the Raiders, it will be a very hard decision to pass on him at 12. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Fetou said: If by some wizardry Roquan falls past the Raiders, it will be a very hard decision to pass on him at 12. I was thinking the same and Termain Edmunds of VT. I would love either of them as our MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, papageorgio said: allen has the best arm since jamarcus russell My mind is blown by the number of people that say exactly this without the slightest hint of irony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fetou said: If by some wizardry Roquan falls past the Raiders, it will be a very hard decision to pass on him at 12. I agree. He is the next Ray Lewis. As for your earlier comment, I think I just have "Vince Young Syndrome." I get scared of QBs with great running talent because they often falter as they get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Fetou said: If by some wizardry Roquan falls past the Raiders, it will be a very hard decision to pass on him at 12. As great of a LB Roquan seems to be, you just can not pass on a potential franchise QB. A franchise's "game changing" moment rarely ever happens with a LB. You've got to suck it up, do the right thing and take that swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorgio Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: My mind is blown by the number of people that say exactly this without the slightest hint of irony jamarcus russel had all the tools to be a good player he was a lazy peice of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, terrytate said: I Like Jackson's ceiling but he is far from there. He will need 2 years atleast. and that's why we signed AJ for 2 yrs. Whoever we draft at qb will require 1-2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I love Roquan as a prospect and in this scheme. I don’t think that you can take anyone but a QB though with your first pick (whenever it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, bufrock j said: new OC runs the system he ran in college, could end up being best of bunch and keeping all those picks could fill out a roster with alot of holes. maybe even trade back one pick and shoot for extra RD1 next year ...couple of quick questions...what if THAT system is NOT what McD wants to employ?.....who wins that argument?......not being able to watch college ball, I am ASSUMING (probably wrong) from what I've read that Jackson is generically an upscale TT, meaning greater attributes.....so in YOUR view (forget my opinion), was it TT's "style" that excluded him from the long term plan or was it his deficiencies as is in a consistently threatening passing game (or lack thereof) that caused the decision?.....does Jackson's ability in the passing game exceed those abilities and if so, does his overall style fit in what this gang is looking for?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, papageorgio said: jamarcus russel had all the tools to be a good player he was a lazy peice of ****. By "all the tools" you mean one tool - a strong arm. You can't name a single QB that was drafted on arm talent alone and made a career out of it. It never happens. I think Cam Newton has come closer than anyone and he had exactly one great season, and he's never fixed his accuracy problems. I think if Mahomes and Allen both bust that could be the end of that style of QB getting drafted high. The NFL has to learn eventually, right? Edited March 18, 2018 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I know it’s apparently insensitive to compare the two QBs and people want to make it a big thing, but if we draft this kid il be pissed. If the added element of the ability to run is something we are looking for, then we should have kept Tyrod. Tyrod is one of the 2 or 3 best running QBs I have ever seen. If this is the type of player we want in this offense, then we should have kept the guy who we had. Also, why did we trade all of these guys last year (that would have helped us in Jacksonville) if we weren’t moving up to take one of the best QBs in the draft? No Jackson. No to Allen, no to Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I do believe he will be the best rookie. I don't know about long term but if I wanted to win in the short I'd take Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: By "all the tools" you mean one tool - a strong arm. You can't name a single QB that was drafted on arm talent alone and made a career out of it. It never happens. I think Cam Newton has come closer than anyone and he had exactly one great season, and he's never fixed his accuracy problems. I think if Mahomes and Allen both bust that could be the end of that style of QB getting drafted high. The NFL has to learn eventually, right? Stafford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: By "all the tools" you mean one tool - a strong arm. You can't name a single QB that was drafted on arm talent alone and made a career out of it. It never happens. I think Cam Newton has come closer than anyone and he had exactly one great season, and he's never fixed his accuracy problems. I think if Mahomes and Allen both bust that could be the end of that style of QB getting drafted high. The NFL has to learn eventually, right? ...Jeff George had a cannon......Montana didn't....now what?.....who is your choice??........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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