Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Most of the guys you guys are citing haven’t played in two decades. The game has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, joesixpack said: Most of the guys you guys are citing haven’t played in two decades. The game has changed. Definitely. Since the defenses can not play the passing game as physical as they used to, they have to disguise coverages and the QB has to be able to recognize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Fitz is a genius and much smarter than all of us Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, mileena said: Speak for yourself. I mean I wouldn't take it personally... let alone let it bother you hes a Harvard graduate , he can be on Wall Street , he is smarter than most people I've always prided myself on academics, and earning a masters was a great moment... I also couldn't get into Harvard even with a 3.7 gpa my original statement was tongue and cheek don't take it personal ? Edited March 18, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: How did Terry Bradshaw do? 16, one point higher than Jim Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 https://qbscores.wordpress.com/wonderlic-scores/ Here's a good list. It means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Another Fan said: Fitz had one of the highest scores recorded.... And how many millions has a guy with very pedestrian physical ability made in the NFL? Intelligence matters, as Fitz's whole career demonstrates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, joesixpack said: Yeah? i think the ability to rapidly process information is important in a qb. Apparently you don’t. No, not when he is sitting at a desk. I need to know how he does on the field. Edited March 18, 2018 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: How did Terry Bradshaw do? Different era, IMO. Bradshaw thew about 23 passes a game and had a career completion percentage of 51.9%. Not much brainpower needed in those days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I’m not sure what to think of the wonderlic. Tee Martin scored an 11 and is a highly thought of offensive coordinator. Marino, Kelly and Bradshaw are in the HOF with low scores. For me, I would probably just need a certain number (maybe 20) to be comfortable with a QB. I would really care from there. 23 vs. 30 wouldn’t really impact my decision making if I were a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: https://qbscores.wordpress.com/wonderlic-scores/ Here's a good list. It means nothing. Single digit scores I would question literacy. And any score in 30 or above you know you are getting a smart football player. Teams still give the wonderlic test. They must use results for some sort of evauluating BTW that test is challenging with the time. I just took it and only made it to question 41. If I were coaching a prospect on how to take it- read question- if it takes longer then 5 seconds to figure- make an educated guess(mostly multiiple choice) and go to next question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Pete said: Single digit scores I would question literacy. And any score in 30 or above you know you are getting a smart football player. Teams still give the wonderlic test. They must use results for some sort of evauluating You obvously don't want a dummy, but Marino, Kelly, McNabb, VY, John David Booty, Charlie Batch, Chris Redman, Randall Cunningham, Heath Shuler, Elvis Grbac, etc all scored in the 14-16 range. What does that tell anyone? Edited March 18, 2018 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The Wonderlic is a joke of a test and may just be in place to make sure you're not an idiot. It doesn't measure processing speed which is a subtest of the most reputable cognitive tests available. It also doesn't measure the ability to learn and retrieve new information which is also an important quality for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Definitely. Since the defenses can not play the passing game as physical as they used to, they have to disguise coverages and the QB has to be able to recognize this. yeah the game has changed---QBing in the league sucks now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: You obvously don't want a dummy, but Marino, Kelly, McNabb, VY, John David Booty, Charlie Batch, Chris Redman, Randall Cunningham, Heath Shuler, Elvis Grbac, etc all scored in the 14-16 range. What does that tell anyone? That half are better QB's than savants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Fitzs arm wasn't terrible by any means! he was just attracted to double coverage Problem with Fitz’s arm is that he had to wind up from the hip to get any velocity. And when you have to triple hitch on a long out, it’s game over (cue up our 2012 opener vs. the Jets for several examples). There was a reason Lee had to break him down; his arm mechanics are crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Problem with Fitz’s arm is that he had to wind up from the hip to get any velocity. And when you have to triple hitch on a long out, it’s game over (cue up our 2012 opener vs. the Jets for several examples). There was a reason Lee had to break him down; his arm mechanics are crap. Yea. He really had to crank it... i hated his double and triple hitch Edited March 18, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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