Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, dave mcbride said: I'm worried about the Jets too. Think about it in the perspective of the teams we are trading with & how far back they want to slide and the players that will be off the board. If we had a QB and were in #2 or #3; I would want to slide back to 6 or 7 and if the QB run was still happening during the draft, I would slide down a hair more if my guys were still there. If not, you bet I wouldn't trade and grab my guy.... I'm also not convinced that Denver is willing to pass on a QB at 5 either. Our best bet is to move to #3 if 12+22+53/56 or 65. if we can't do that, I really think we may have to move to 7. I would think that all options should be on the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Consider the poster you're speaking to - 100% troll. yep, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 12 hours ago, mileena said: I'd do it in a heartbeat. Hughes is worthless to us. Do you watch the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Guys, those who are pro Hughes......... my take is you have to give up something to get something. And to those who think the Bucs won't even bother..................... the Bengals took on an injured aging LT for the Bills to move up 9 spots. Hughes is about the same age as Glenn, without the injuries and I am advocating for the Bills to move up 5 spots by trading the Bucs Hughes. I understand both sides of the argument. Mine is, you have to give up something to get something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Estro said: Precisely. #22 and #7 is actually a little more valuable than the 3rd pick, so maybe the Colts give you their 4th or 5th back. The point being the Bills wouldn't have to touch any picks next year, or any of their multiple 2nd or 3rd round picks this yr. That's 4 picks in rounds 2 and 3 to find quality starters on CHEAP 4 yr rookie deals. This is how smart teams build rosters. Exactly! Moving to 7 would just be the stepping stone to 2/3. Hughes will be 30 and he's diminishing returns. I want sacks, not pressures. Freeing up some cap space would help also. I see Murphy & Odiggy being our starting DE's anyway. Thanks Jerry for your efforts but the process continues..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, blacklabel said: Either way, McD is big on having plenty of DL for his rotations. DL is a major point of emphasis for this team going forward. Trading away one or both of your top two DEs doesn't make a whole lot of sense especially after they just went and paid good money for a big, space-eating DT that should help DEs get more 1-on-1 opportunities. C'm on man, this is McD. He literally fielded a team without a top 70 quality NFL receiver for the first half of the season and 3 of his 4 regular DT's post-Dareus ended up ranking in the 100's in terms of NFL DT productivity..........like it or not, he is not afraid to put bad football players on the field if he can't have talented ones that live the process. We know about the ship Rex ran but I'd also guess that life at Club Dabo was a bit less structured for the Shaqster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I'm worried about the Jets too. The Jets are not trading up. They are not signing McCown, Bridgewater and then trading up giving up assets for a guy there will be pressure to start almost immediately. I don't rule them out of taking whoever is there at #6 still, but I think more likely the Jets are going the take another shot at a 2nd round guy.... Rudolph if he falls there or Mike White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The Jets are not trading up. They are not signing McCown, Bridgewater and then trading up giving up assets for a guy there will be pressure to start almost immediately. I don't rule them out of taking whoever is there at #6 still, but I think more likely the Jets are going the take another shot at a 2nd round guy.... Rudolph if he falls there or Mike White. I really hope you're right. Neither of their qbs have anything close to long term contracts, however, and this is a great draft for the position. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The Jets are not trading up. They are not signing McCown, Bridgewater and then trading up giving up assets for a guy there will be pressure to start almost immediately. I don't rule them out of taking whoever is there at #6 still, but I think more likely the Jets are going the take another shot at a 2nd round guy.... Rudolph if he falls there or Mike White. 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I really hope you're right. Neither of their qbs have anything close to long term contracts, however, and this is a great draft for the position. We shall see. Me too. I'd be pissed as a Jets fan if they sat tight and ended up with yet another second tier prospect...........that fanbase has been in tank-for-a-QB mode for the past 14 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Me too. I'd be pissed as a Jets fan if they sat tight and ended up with yet another second tier prospect...........that fanbase has been in tank-for-a-QB mode for the past 14 months. They have five QBs on their roster now, although the fifth is a nobody. After having to carry four last year and three the entire season, I'm not sure they are going to do that again. I doubt they are signing Bridgewater and then making him inactive, or Darnold/Allen/Rosen inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: They have five QBs on their roster now, although the fifth is a nobody. After having to carry four last year and three the entire season, I'm not sure they are going to do that again. I doubt they are signing Bridgewater and then making him inactive, or Darnold/Allen/Rosen inactive. I'd like to see them draft Rudolph at #6. Imagine the Ken O'Brien selection but with social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, NewEra said: Do you watch the games? How did he do last year? 6 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I'm worried about the Jets too. LOL! You're scared of the Jets? They just signed two QB's, one of whom is their franchise QB. Edited March 17, 2018 by mileena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Jerry Hughes will benefit greatly from the arrivals of Star Lotulelei and Trent Murphy. And like they said through Carucci - we need all the DE help we can get. We're not in the position to be ousting a talent like Jerry Hughes right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 19 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The Jets are not trading up. They are not signing McCown, Bridgewater and then trading up giving up assets for a guy there will be pressure to start almost immediately. I don't rule them out of taking whoever is there at #6 still, but I think more likely the Jets are going the take another shot at a 2nd round guy.... Rudolph if he falls there or Mike White. Um ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 21 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I'm worried about the Jets too. Welp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 6:36 AM, jr1 said: I don't see anyone wanting Hughes' salary and him being a flag magnet He had 6 flags this year. 29 defensive ends had at least 4 flags this year. He wasn't even top 5 for flags for his own position. If we are talking the entire league, he's not even in the top 50 for flags. Can we stop with the fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 any upward move for us is either the #2 spot or nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Um ... Yep. About as wrong as it is possible to be. Looks like it is #2 or bust for the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yep. About as wrong as it is possible to be. Looks like it is #2 or bust for the Bills. This idea makes sense if you can get to seven, then jump to 2. Giants can still get Nelson at 7. Tampa was probably hoping Chubb fell to them if the Colts traded back. Now that the Colts are at six, Tampa isn't getting Chubb. They could trade down to 12 and get Davenport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Someone earlier summed this up well - why would TB want a 30 year old highly paid pass rusher who had 4 sacks last season? Now, I’m not saying that Hughes couldn’t have a more productive year in 2018, but I don’t think TB would trade anything of value to take that gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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