Trade up in rd 1 + trade up in rd 2??

[Bills4life1924]

We are all aware the bills are going after the quarterback that they are targeting with another trade up in the 1st rd. But, If Leighton Vander Esch (or another top linebacker) slides to the 2nd day of the draft, I wouldn't be surprised if Beane works the phone after the 1st rd late Thursday night and Friday afternoon to move to the top of the 2nd rd. I only see this happening if the trade up in the 1st rd involves a 2019 2nd or 3rd. This way we have more ammunition to trade up in the 2nd rd this year and grab our hand picked MLB.

I know it's quite a bit of draft capital to pull off 2 trade ups. But I would be all for it. With the few picks We would have left, they could use for lineman, cb or another rb(I just don't see us taking wr early in draft, and typically late rd wr's dont produce right away)We have mega cap space next year to fill holes during free agency. 

 

Thoughts??

[H2o]

The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically

[Bills4life1924]

12 minutes ago, H2o said:

The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically

We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick of rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It's wishful thinking and I wouldn't be surprised if McBeane went this route.

Edited March 15, 2018 by Bills4life1924

[OldTimer1960]

10 minutes ago, H2o said:

The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically

+1

2 minutes ago, Bills4life1924 said:

We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick or rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It'

But those 3 picks left over are more lottery tickets than vouchers guaranteeing good players.  

 

Not or saying it would necessarily be a bad plan, but leaving a draft in which you had 5 picks in the top 65 and 6 in top 100 with only 2 players would be tough to accept.  Still, I accept that trading up for a QB will cost at least both firsts and likely at least one 2nd.

[Bills4life1924]

9 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

+1

But those 3 picks left over are more lottery tickets than vouchers guaranteeing good players.  

 

Not or saying it would necessarily be a bad plan, but leaving a draft in which you had 5 picks in the top 65 and 6 in top 100 with only 2 players would be tough to accept.  Still, I accept that trading up for a QB will cost at least both firsts and likely at least one 2nd.

Not that I want them to give up draft capital. I just threw this out there bc McBeane is not afraid to deal, and we gotta find our MLB somewhere.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924

[H2o]

Trade up to get your QB and then go BPA. If BPA fills a position of need even better. 

[Bills4life1924]

I'm just saying, I could see McBeane going this route. Especially bc we know they are no strangers to pull the trigger.

[maryland-bills-fan]

I think that only the first 3 rounds are significant in the draft.  After that, I don't think there is too much difference between UFA and a guy from the middle of the 7th round.

[ALLEN1QB]

Or trade down get some pics for  next year

[pimp on da' net]

56 minutes ago, Bills4life1924 said:

We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick of rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It's wishful thinking and I wouldn't be surprised if McBeane went this route.

Before you throughout hypotheticals, here's a helpful reference for you... 

 

NFL Draft Trade Value Chart

ROUND 1		ROUND 2		ROUND 3		ROUND 4		ROUND 5		ROUND 6		ROUND 7
Pos	Value	Pos	Value	Pos	Value	Pos	Value	Pos	Value	Pos	Value	Pos	Value
1	3000	33	580	65	266	97	112	129	43	161	27	193	14
2	2600	34	570	66	260	98	108	130	42	162	27	194	14
3	2200	35	560	67	255	99	104	131	41	163	26	195	13
4	1800	36	550	68	250	100	100	132	40	164	26	196	13
5	1700	37	540	69	245	101	96	133	40	165	25	197	13
6	1600	38	530	70	240	102	92	134	39	166	25	198	12
7	1500	39	520	71	235	103	88	135	39	167	25	199	12
8	1400	40	510	72	230	104	86	136	38	168	24	200	11
9	1350	41	500	73	225	105	84	137	38	169	24	201	11
10	1300	42	490	74	220	106	82	138	37	170	23	202	11
11	1250	43	480	75	215	107	80	139	37	171	23	203	10
12	1200	44	470	76	210	108	78	140	36	172	23	204	10
13	1150	45	460	77	205	109	76	141	36	173	22	205	9
14	1100	46	450	78	200	110	74	142	35	174	22	206	9
15	1050	47	440	79	195	111	72	143	35	175	21	207	9
16	1000	48	430	80	190	112	70	144	34	176	21	208	8
17	950	49	420	81	185	113	68	145	34	177	21	209	8
18	900	50	400	82	180	114	66	146	33	178	20	210	7
19	875	51	390	83	175	115	64	147	33	179	20	211	7
20	850	52	380	84	170	116	62	148	32	180	19	212	7
21	800	53	370	85	165	117	60	149	32	181	19	213	6
22	780	54	360	86	160	118	58	150	31	182	19	214	6
23	760	55	350	87	155	119	56	151	31	183	18	215	5
24	740	56	340	88	150	120	54	152	31	184	18	216	5

[Bills4life1924]

20 minutes ago, PIP said:

Or trade down get some pics for  next year

I hear ya there, wouldn't mind that at all. I'm just curious to where our linebackers come from, especially MLB. Unless we can resign the manageable Preston Brown or maybe Bowman. But MLB is one of the most important position's in this defense. I bet McBeane Want's their Kuechly. It's all hypothetical, but I wanted to hear from other member's if they would be for it or against it.

 

Good call, pimp on da' net... I was inflating the 1st rd trade up bc teams are gonna be asking for more than the value. But if we could trade up for less than I threw out there, even better!!

Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924

[MrEpsYtown]

We traded down once last year and traded up twice. We came away from last year’s draft with 6 players. I expect something similar this year. I like that this fromt office goes and gets the players they have targeted. 

[Bills4life1924]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

We traded down once last year and traded up twice. We came away from last year’s draft with 6 players. I expect something similar this year. I like that this fromt office goes and gets the players they have targeted. 

Good call, we had a great draft last year! I really wouldn't mind if we came out of this draft with just 5-6 picks. As long as we have our qb, our qb of the defense and some nice depth guys.

[Boca BIlls]

34 minutes ago, PIP said:

Or trade down get some pics for  next year

Not worth it with late round draft picks

[Bills4life1924]

1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said:

Not worth it with late round draft picks

I took his quote as trading our other 2nd for a 3rd this year and 2nd and later rd pick next year. If the board doesn't look good to McBeane when they pick, then I would be for a trade back. But I still say trade up and get your MLB of the future if the guy they like is there

Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924

[Billznut]

I think there is a decent chance the Bills have to trade their 2019 1st in the tradeup to #2 or #3. IF they end up giving away next years 1st, I could see Beane obtaining a 2019 #1 from a team in exchange for one of our 2s and one of our 3s. That would then give them a full compliment of picks back for 2019 and still have whatever picks are leftover this year as well with obviously #2 or #3 overall and our QB as the ultimate prize. 

Edited March 16, 2018 by Billznut

[Bills4life1924]

Now with Preston gone. I could see this scenario playing out. Or atleast a trade to acuire a LB from another teams roster. I just have a feeling they want their guy hand picked and they will trade one way or another to acquire him. 

Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924