Buddo Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I wouldn't object to getting both of them back tbh. Brown is a solid enough player in a 4-3, and is nowhere near as bad as some would like to make out. I'd rather have him than Bradham any day of the week, and especially Sundays. There were a couple of times in the SB, where it looked to me as though Bradham was running through sand, where everyone else was running on turf - and I wasn't even trying to see stuff like that. Gaines problem is his talent is currently outweighing his availability. And his ego is likely in lock step with his talent. I'm not sure that Gaines had one particular problem last year, or whether it was a series of different 'nicks', but whatever it was, it seems to happen every year with him. On the one hand, you appreciate that the guy is a finely honed athlete, who knows his own body well, on the other hand, you want him to get his butt on the field of a Sunday, because your team is better with him, than without him. My own gut feeling is that McDermott is pretty old school when it comes to Sundays, and availability, and Beane will simply have to follow that lead. Consequently, I can see them offering Gaines a new deal, but nowhere near what he wants, without him hitting playing incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Id sign EJ to a 1 or 2 year deal, let Preston walk, get a sideline to sideline LB in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I am shocked that both EJ Gaines and Preston Brown have not gotten new deals. EJ Gaines especially was projected to make $8-$9M a year. Preston even was going to get $7 M. That won’t happen now, but with EJ it makes me wonder whether the Bills can make a short term deal within the $4-$6M range. If they come cheap and can be structured to be cut without cap penalty, if something better comes along, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Many teams are standing pat until the draft and will fill holes with inexpensive FA. Good chance the Bills resign one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, noacls said: Gaines yes Brown hell no Ya I really don’t get the love for Preston brown. Hes not bad but I definitely don’t consider him good. And he’s going to be grossly overpaid in my opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We’re going to start a qb with no or limited experience, so I could see them also having no issue drafting/starting a lb that best fits their scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: EJ is a very specific scheme fit with injury issues. It’s in his best interests to come back to us and prove that this year wasn’t a fluke. Preston is slow and can’t cover. Not really coveted in today’s NFL. I could see him going somwhere like Green Bay to play inside in a 3-4. He’s a 2 down backer and he likes the Patriots so f him. Seeing zach brown, a more athletic lb, struggle to get the deal he wanted the last few years left me feeling like brown wouldn’t be getting the brinks truck. gaines I think still sees a pay day - cb vs lb is a different discussion. That said, the longer he lingers the better our shot Edited March 15, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 It is still VERY early in FA. I’d love to have either or both of Gaines and Brown back, but I would not count on the market for them being so bad that the Bills can afford them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I’m surprised there is no market for a LB that runs like a piano with shoes. Teams throw almost every down. If you can’t rush the passer or run and cover, might as well go find something else to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 NFL free agency moves fast but it is only day 2 of the official signing period. There are still plenty of teams with plenty of cap space that need corners and LB's. So I wouldn't say that the market has dried up just yet on these players. But if by next Wednesday these players are still out on the market then clearly the market has passed them up. Gaines I think will be fine I suspect by Monday he is signed. Brown could go either way. I wouldn't mind seeing Brown back on an affordable deal. But Gaines back on a modest deal would be great. The less holes going into the draft the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: NFL free agency moves fast but it is only day 2 of the official signing period. There are still plenty of teams with plenty of cap space that need corners and LB's. So I wouldn't say that the market has dried up just yet on these players. But if by next Wednesday these players are still out on the market then clearly the market has passed them up. Gaines I think will be fine I suspect by Monday he is signed. Brown could go either way. I wouldn't mind seeing Brown back on an affordable deal. But Gaines back on a modest deal would be great. The less holes going into the draft the better. Suh's available. Mathieu's available. Sheldon Richardson... There are still premier players available. A lot of corners moved pre free agency with Talib, Peters, Sherman, Worley, and Randall all moving teams. IMO Gaines was at that tier below Johnson and Butler, and the market shows that. There's a few other guys available, but he's probably better, and more likely asking for a bunch more money. Gaines wants more than Robinson got at 4yrs 20. Brown's an interesting case because of his fit with certain teams. Patriots won't overpay, but he'd probably fit in there pretty well as a deep lying cover 2 MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said: Not always true. As options dry up, sometimes teams get desperate too. Waiting could result in closer to what they want. COULD Yep, that's their quandry: could result in higher offer. Could also result in no or lower offer, as teams fill cap space and spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Lurker said: The longer they linger, the more chance they have to re-sign with the Bills. I would be happy if both guys returned... yessir i must agree ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Lurker said: The longer they linger, the more chance they have to re-sign with the Bills. I would be happy if both guys returned... Not me. Give me EJ Gaines back for sure but Preston Brown can pound sand. We can do better at linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: EJ is a very specific scheme fit with injury issues. It’s in his best interests to come back to us and prove that this year wasn’t a fluke. Preston is slow and can’t cover. Not really coveted in today’s NFL. I could see him going somwhere like Green Bay to play inside in a 3-4. He’s a 2 down backer and he likes the Patriots so f him. Bet Mc Beanes caught wind of that as well. I can see him as a two down here still 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: That won’t make him faster or help him cover toght ends. He’s terrible. I disagree about him being terrible. He was god awful with Rex and got Back to form under Frazier. He is very serviceable. But limited might be the better word ? 5 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Not me. Give me EJ Gaines back for sure but Preston Brown can pound sand. We can do better at linebacker. and oft injured CB at over 5 mil and an indulgence since getting Davis. Or getting back the QB of the Defense at a bargain. hmmm. I hope they draft the MLB of the future for sure. Thing is Brown is looking for the longer term contract. Bills likely will not give it to him, and certainly are not paying his agents asking price, at this point anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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