BuffaloRush Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Nope not even close If Lawson would have played out the full year last year, he was on pace for around 50 tackles and 6-7 sacks... Shaq cant pressure the QB. It’s a miracle he even had 4 sacks. He just has no pass rush ability. Cap Capi did a better job rushing the passer IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: Shaq cant pressure the QB. It’s a miracle he even had 4 sacks. He just has no pass rush ability. Cap Capi did a better job rushing the passer IMO On pace for 6-7 sacks and was miles better against the run than Capi. Lawson can improve in pass rush but he's already solid against the run. Not every DE that is good gets 10 plus sacks. It's not all about how many sacks a guy gets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: On pace for 6-7 sacks and was miles better against the run than Capi. Lawson can improve in pass rush but he's already solid against the run. Not every DE that is good gets 10 plus sacks. It's not all about how many sacks a guy gets. Yep but watch the games Shaq plays. He doesn’t get to the QB much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rico said: So long, good luck, and goodbye. Nick O'Leary will be last Whaley man standing. Is he really the last one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Is he really the last one? After Shaq, Adolphus, and Miller are gone, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You do realize that 260+lb DEs get tired and can't play every single snap at 100% right? The Giants won a Super Bowl rotating DEs, it's a thing we should have been doing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Rico said: After Shaq, Adolphus, and Miller are gone, yes. I never even thought about what really was left - astounding job turning it over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I never even thought about what really was left - astounding job turning it over! Yep. Whaley's huge mess just about cleaned up in less than a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Rico said: Yep. Whaley's huge mess just about cleaned up in less than a year. And almost all of RWs trash is gone too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Yep but watch the games Shaq plays. He doesn’t get to the QB much. I record games and watch them twice. I've seen him play plenty. Look at the plays he made in the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I see that the Bills have signed a guy named Trent Murphy. based on the big contract they gave him, it means that the former #1 draft pick Shaquille Lawson is probably not going to be playing much DE. It really makes me wonder why, he was the #1 pick overall and should be starting. Why was he ever drafted in the first place? I mean he was a 4-3 DE that was drafted in Rex Ryan’s 3-4, yet he can hardly play in the 4-3? WTF So so if we signed Trent Murphy to play DE from Washington then what happens with Shaq? Seeing that that he is classified as AFWDP (Another Failed Whaley Draft Pick) I really think the Bills are going to give him away for peanuts. Like a 6th or 7th round draft pick It should give him the motivation to live up to where he was drafted & if he does then he will be the one given the next big contract but if not he will continue to be good a depth & rotational player !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: I record games and watch them twice. I've seen him play plenty. Look at the plays he made in the run game. Yes but he can’t rush the passer. Like I said Capi Capi does a better job getting to the QB and is almost as good against the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: Yes but he can’t rush the passer. Like I said Capi Capi does a better job getting to the QB and is almost as good against the run No he is not almost as good against the run. Why do you think Trent Murphy is here? Because he can rush the passer while Lawson plays the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said: We are allowed depth. It's good, embrace it. DE gets depth too? I thought that was reserved for more important positions like FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Yes but he can’t rush the passer. Like I said Capi Capi does a better job getting to the QB and is almost as good against the run I remember in the Jets game there was a stretch were they seemingly avoided running the ball to Shaw Lawson's side. Second he was subbed out...they ran to his side. Capi didn't stand out as a real find to me in the pass rushing dept., but perhaps he is as good as you say he is. I'm not buying that he's equally effective against the run as Lawson though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Shaq just seems so slow on the snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: When you really need a sack, Shaq hits the bench. He did miss 6 games last year and still tied for most sacks on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: I see that the Bills have signed a guy named Trent Murphy. based on the big contract they gave him, it means that the former #1 draft pick Shaquille Lawson is probably not going to be playing much DE. It really makes me wonder why, he was the #1 pick overall and should be starting. Why was he ever drafted in the first place? I mean he was a 4-3 DE that was drafted in Rex Ryan’s 3-4, yet he can hardly play in the 4-3? WTF So so if we signed Trent Murphy to play DE from Washington then what happens with Shaq? Seeing that that he is classified as AFWDP (Another Failed Whaley Draft Pick) I really think the Bills are going to give him away for peanuts. Like a 6th or 7th round draft pick Hmmm where to start, hard to read gibberish. You shouldn't have skipped all those English classes in your formative years. He wasn't the #1 pick overall. And, don't know if you have ever watched football before, but 4-3 or 3-4, there are two defensive ends in either formation. As others have stated, players don't usually play the whole game, sometimes they come out, thus maybe they need more than just 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: I see that the Bills have signed a guy named Trent Murphy. based on the big contract they gave him, it means that the former #1 draft pick Shaquille Lawson is probably not going to be playing much DE. It really makes me wonder why, he was the #1 pick overall and should be starting. Why was he ever drafted in the first place? I mean he was a 4-3 DE that was drafted in Rex Ryan’s 3-4, yet he can hardly play in the 4-3? WTF So so if we signed Trent Murphy to play DE from Washington then what happens with Shaq? Seeing that that he is classified as AFWDP (Another Failed Whaley Draft Pick) I really think the Bills are going to give him away for peanuts. Like a 6th or 7th round draft pick Rotation you know McD is heavy on Rotation right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: I see that the Bills have signed a guy named Trent Murphy. based on the big contract they gave him, it means that the former #1 draft pick Shaquille Lawson is probably not going to be playing much DE. It really makes me wonder why, he was the #1 pick overall and should be starting. Why was he ever drafted in the first place? I mean he was a 4-3 DE that was drafted in Rex Ryan’s 3-4, yet he can hardly play in the 4-3? WTF So so if we signed Trent Murphy to play DE from Washington then what happens with Shaq? Seeing that that he is classified as AFWDP (Another Failed Whaley Draft Pick) I really think the Bills are going to give him away for peanuts. Like a 6th or 7th round draft pick Shaq isn't going anywhere. They rotate DEs and he is a beast in the run game. Just no need imo to trade him, he still has a ton of potential and high ceiling,worse case , he's a run stopping specialist, best case he turns into a complete DE and we can keep him Murphy and Hughes fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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