Mikie2times Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) It's so natural to long for times gone by, but I just appreciated the NFL so much more before it was intentionally converted to a QB league. I like defense. I like seeing defenses that are so formidable they can combat even the best QB's. Consider in 1990 only 3 teams had a completion % above 60%, this season 24 teams did. Anybody else feel similar? Edited February 24, 2018 by KzooMike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I found the quality of play for sure better back then. Not a Ravens fan but yeah I do missing seeing defenses like their 2000 squad. 2001 the year it all went downhill for many reasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I find nothing more boring than the lack of QB play and offense that has been lacking for over 20 years on this team. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I agree with you. Defenses, especially DBs have been hamstrung by the rules that, IMO, overprotect WRs and promote higher scoring games. The NFL seems to disagree with this, though; it appears they feel that higher scoring games are more interesting and attract more fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The entire league is getting boring, imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I love a good 20 to 17 game over a 34 To 31 game. The main thing I hate are the flags,and when you have those huge scoring games, it seems like the flags are thrown like crazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) I think the great defenses also led to the more exciting story lines. In no way is this supposed go the path of a hate New England thread, but let me see Brady in the early 90's with his WR's having massive timing interuptions.... I liked the great ground attacks. Great defenses. All things great outside of just the QB position. It's what made the game diverse. Edited February 24, 2018 by KzooMike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Completely. You can't play defense anymore and the whole event of QB's looking for easy PI's is also terrible. It's drained me away from the game. I watched 3 minutes of Pittsburgh Jax. That's the last NFL I watched for the year. I just didn't care to watch these overpaid babies play a soft pussified game to have the refs and commerical interests distract from the integrity of the game. No one realizes it but defensive games draw viewers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Penalty for hitting high. Penalty for hitting low. Penalty for hitting too soon after a catch. Penalty for hitting too late as a guy is going out of bounds. Penalty for not being able to stop your momentum in mid air as the QB decides to slide. I don’t like seeing guys get hurt, but many of these calls are not preventing injuries. They’re just giving the offense a break and interrupting the flow of the game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Meh. There are plenty of defensive slugfests out there. 10-3 Jacksonville Buffalo was one of them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: Penalty for hitting high. Penalty for hitting low. Penalty for hitting too soon after a catch. Penalty for hitting too late as a guy is going out of bounds. Penalty for not being able to stop your momentum in mid air as the QB decides to slide. I don’t like seeing guys get hurt, but many of these calls are not preventing injuries. They’re just giving the offense a break and interrupting the flow of the game. This is right here. That phantom unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Gaines against Kansas City was just downright embarrassing for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Officiating is a much bigger problem, IMO... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) The PI is far too powerful of a penalty; it just does not fit in and ruins games. The whole wtf is a catch is really dumb. Amazing talent is being deemed a non catch for seemingly random reasons. The NFL is ruining its product. It can fix these two issues without worrying about QB injuries and brain damage law suits too. Edited February 24, 2018 by sleeby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Yeah, who doesn't love 3 and outs and the punt game!! Anyway, scoring has been pretty stable through the decades, despite the perception that it hasn't. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/scoring.htm Receiving TDs per team per game last year were the same as (oh, I'll just pick one) 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah, who doesn't love 3 and outs and the punt game!! Anyway, scoring has been pretty stable through the decades, despite the perception that it hasn't. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/scoring.htm Receiving TDs per team per game last year were the same as (oh, I'll just pick one) 1987. Pretty lazy way of using data to fit an agenda. This decade compared to the 90's Passing TD's are up 29%. Edited February 24, 2018 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I disagree. I think the offensive mindset NFL product is much more exciting than in years past. The rules do favor the QB and it’s getting nearly impossible to defend a receiver without PI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 A lot of people will say yes, but it doesn't agree with how people rate and react to games come season time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) All passing metrics are up compared to years past as you would expect them to be. With the rules as they are, great QB's are better on average than great defenses. This leads to lack of balance in the product. You see exceptions, but you don't see many rules. In the early 90's a great QB against a great defense was a 50/50. It's just not that way anymore. Edited February 24, 2018 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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