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We all know we need pass rushers.  My guess is Vander Esch is one of the combine standouts and moves up draft boards.  At 6'4 250 and lightning speed, he can rush the passer or cover gronk.  The new trend is basketball players converting to LB.  Between him and Milano, they can cover great.  I found this blurb interesting-

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-this-class-will-provide-wave-of-the-future-at-the-linebacker-position/

The source added, "Imagine LeBron James playing defense. At linebacker he'd cover so much ground so quickly. That's the thought with these bigger freak athletes at linebacker. Most importantly, the league's been looking for someone to cover the Rob Gronkowski-type tight ends. For a long time, the NFL's tried bigger safeties, but these new linebackers are really big and really athletic."

Edmunds and Vander Esch are expected to have vertical leaps in the upper 30-inch range at 6-4 and 250-plus pounds. A source told me to not be surprised if Vander Esch's three-cone time approached the highly coveted 7.00 second mark.

For perspective, 6-0, 223-pound Matt Milano had the highest vertical (35 inches) among linebackers at the 2017 combine, and only five off-ball linebackers had three-cones faster than 7.00 seconds.

Their height comes with length, which helps Edmunds and Vander Esch get to the football a split-second faster ... and is a luxury in coverage.

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Title is vague but thanks for your input. I'll keep an eye on this guy during the combine

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Vander Esch... the name sounds pretty high-motor lunch pail to me.

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2 minutes ago, Rico said:

Vander Esch... the name sounds pretty high-motor lunch pail to me.

So like this:

 

Image result for high motor lunch pail

or this:

 

Image result for high motor lunch pail

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12 minutes ago, Pete said:

We all know we need pass rushers.  My guess is Vander Esch is one of the combine standouts and moves up draft boards.  At 6'4 250 and lightning speed, he can rush the passer or cover gronk.  The new trend is basketball players converting to LB.  Between him and Milano, they can cover great.  I found this blurb interesting-

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-this-class-will-provide-wave-of-the-future-at-the-linebacker-position/

The source added, "Imagine LeBron James playing defense. At linebacker he'd cover so much ground so quickly. That's the thought with these bigger freak athletes at linebacker. Most importantly, the league's been looking for someone to cover the Rob Gronkowski-type tight ends. For a long time, the NFL's tried bigger safeties, but these new linebackers are really big and really athletic."

Edmunds and Vander Esch are expected to have vertical leaps in the upper 30-inch range at 6-4 and 250-plus pounds. A source told me to not be surprised if Vander Esch's three-cone time approached the highly coveted 7.00 second mark.

For perspective, 6-0, 223-pound Matt Milano had the highest vertical (35 inches) among linebackers at the 2017 combine, and only five off-ball linebackers had three-cones faster than 7.00 seconds.

Their height comes with length, which helps Edmunds and Vander Esch get to the football a split-second faster ... and is a luxury in coverage.

 Agreed.  He’s really the perfect fit for us.  Would be happy with him at 21-22 or in a trade down.  I can’t imagine him being available with our 2nd rd pick. T Edwards and R Smith are better imo, but can’t see either being available when we pick

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And he's currently projected to be taken right around the Bills current range. Between Roquon, Edmunds, Evans, and Vander Esch, if the Bills hang onto one of their late 1st round picks, they should be able to get a great linebacker prospect which this team desperately needs.

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11 minutes ago, Pete said:

 "Imagine LeBron James playing defense. 

 

 

Sorry, I couldn't.  So I stopped.

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5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

So like this:

 

Image result for high motor lunch pail

or this:

 

Image result for high motor lunch pail

 

 

No, like this.

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obliqatory  highlight reel

 

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I'm not interested in any other position than QB.

 

Get a damn QB. It's been too long.

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So do you see him as a MLB, or more of a SLB? 

 

I assume that Milano will primarily be a WLB, right? 

 

I bet McD is Chomping at the bit for a Kuchley-esq player in the middle. 

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2 minutes ago, McBean said:

I'm not interested in any other position than QB.

 

Get a damn QB. It's been too long.

They have a lot of draft picks ...

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I said this in the thread in the draft part of the forum, but it would go against the senior/injury free type of player McDermott loves.

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I don't doubt Pete's opinion on Esch in the OT.

 

However, and I know this may be an unpopular position, but in the last couple of years I have honestly cooled on the whole idea of it being of utmost importance to have tremendous pass rushers.

 

Don't get me wrong, I know they are "important"...but utmost?  IMO, not necessarily during a time in the NFL when it appears that all QBs seem to be quickly getting rid of the ball, rushed or not.  Additionally, they are usually very expensive after awhile.

 

Maybe I've been spoiled lately in Buffalo/McBeantown, but give me a three down LB, a good CB (or rather a very stable dback group of 4) and a a man-eating DT before a pass-rushing DE.

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This guy would be a FREAK!  I can not wait for this draft.....sooooooo many possibilities.

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What was the guys name from Buffalo Philly took in the first round about ten years ago?  Great workout guy couldn't play a lick.

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8 hours ago, Herb62 said:

What was the guys name from Buffalo Philly took in the first round about ten years ago?  Great workout guy couldn't play a lick.

Mike Mamula

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14 hours ago, Pete said:

We all know we need pass rushers.  My guess is Vander Esch is one of the combine standouts and moves up draft boards.  At 6'4 250 and lightning speed, he can rush the passer or cover gronk.  The new trend is basketball players converting to LB.  Between him and Milano, they can cover great.  I found this blurb interesting-

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-this-class-will-provide-wave-of-the-future-at-the-linebacker-position/

The source added, "Imagine LeBron James playing defense. At linebacker he'd cover so much ground so quickly. That's the thought with these bigger freak athletes at linebacker. Most importantly, the league's been looking for someone to cover the Rob Gronkowski-type tight ends. For a long time, the NFL's tried bigger safeties, but these new linebackers are really big and really athletic."

Edmunds and Vander Esch are expected to have vertical leaps in the upper 30-inch range at 6-4 and 250-plus pounds. A source told me to not be surprised if Vander Esch's three-cone time approached the highly coveted 7.00 second mark.

For perspective, 6-0, 223-pound Matt Milano had the highest vertical (35 inches) among linebackers at the 2017 combine, and only five off-ball linebackers had three-cones faster than 7.00 seconds.

Their height comes with length, which helps Edmunds and Vander Esch get to the football a split-second faster ... and is a luxury in coverage.

 

Big fan of Esch, hope we get him, never heard of Edmunds.

 

 

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"What's that?  Did someone say Playoffs?  Playoffs?  I only hope we get a damn QB to win another game"

 

Changed Mora's quote a little but you get the jist!

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I think the basketball connection is a stretch.  He played in high school, not college right?  I would guess most college football players over 6'1" played high school basketball.

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22 hours ago, Rico said:

Vander Esch... the name sounds pretty high-motor lunch pail to me.

 

Sounds more like a blue-collar gym rat to me. 

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Vander Esch and Harrison Phillips would be cool, but we need a QB.

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On 2/23/2018 at 3:23 PM, DCOrange said:

And he's currently projected to be taken right around the Bills current range. Between Roquon, Edmunds, Evans, and Vander Esch, if the Bills hang onto one of their late 1st round picks, they should be able to get a great linebacker prospect which this team desperately needs.

 

Im starting to think that might be the plan, even if we trade up.

 

Beane would be an offseason hero if he pulled off trading up for Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, and still kept one of our 1sts.

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