Thurman#1 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, #34fan said: I disagree... I've been watching next year's QB crop for a couple seasons, and they look solid... -I'll tell you what may NOT be available next year... -A quick, powerful, run stuffing, punisher like Da'Ron Payne... That near-perfect combination of strength, size, and speed, doesn't manifest itself often at DT... I WOULD NOT pass him over. Also, with the Rams, you're talking about an organization that did EVERYTHING they had to for their 1st Rd QB to succeed... -From assembling an arsenal of choice weapons, to firing the coach that drafted him because it HAD to be done. -Is OBD prepared to go that far for a rookie QB??? -They'd better be, because that's what it takes.. I haven't looked at the QBs next year but I bet next year won't be another this year, that the class will be less impressive. Solid, maybe. As good as this year, doubtful. First, because that's how it generally works when you have an outlier. There's not generally another outlier the next year. And second because if it was another great year we'd have heard it by now. The pundits would be all over it. We were hearing about this year's class 13 and 14 months ago and how good they were going to be. And we're not this year. Doesn't mean you can't be right Maybe you are. But that's not the way to bet. And Da"Ron Payne is very good, but he's not an outlier. There'll be a very good run stuffer next year. Not that I'm against Da'Ron Payne. Seems like a good player to me. Will the Bills do what the Rams did? The Rams were in position to do what they did because they'd already put together a terrific defense. So, no, I doubt the Bills will do what the Rams did. But they don't have to. A slow build is pretty common for teams on the build. Whoever we pick will need to develop. There are many ways to do that. And sure that means building a talented core around him, but I'm sure McDermott and Beane are aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 12 hours ago, ProcessTheTrust said: I here ya but I think we need a better QB hear. They'res no whey we don't draught a good one, no what I mean? For all intensive purposes, your grammar sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Very Bad Weather said: Hypothetically we don't move any where and draft say Lamar Jackson or mason rudolph...who ever is available or we give up EVERYTHING and some how draft 1,2 or 3 and get (insert your favorite qb) does that really mean we are done at the QB position? i can't imagine who ever we draft that means that tyrod is 100 percent gone, that any free agent is off the table ect Philly, and for that case Minnesota have taught that leauge (and Denver is proving the case) that QB should be like any other position. constantly addressed and if there is an option upgraded via draft of free agency. Yes, it matters who we draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I agree it doesn't matter who we pick. Because the top 4 all have flaws and none of them are can't miss kind of guys. Be because historically around of high first round QBsvdon't pan out.50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 a good OC is more important. Pederson hiding Foles' faults, Lynn hiding Tyrod's faults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Yes let's draft a LB and DT so we can build up the defence so we can continue to lose games 9 to 3. I guess some people love being a 500 team. As of right now, I wouldn't take any of the QBs coming out next year over any of the top 5 guys in this draft. Next year's QB class is going to make EJ Manual look like Brady. Roll the dice move up and get the guy we want and don't settle for what every other team passes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, DefenseWins said: So take a chance for once. Trade up for what McBean thinks the best available QB out there is... The price doesn't matter... High Risk = High Reward Oh the Casinos love people like you coming in the doors. Hey, so what if the mortgage payment is overdue and they are threatening to foreclose next week if I don't pay. I have the money to make the payment and keep the house, but hey, if I take that money to the casino and hit the jackpot I'm a millionaire and I can have a fantastic house instead of just any old decent house. They make their profit off of people who gamble like you. I'm sure the lotto people love you too. I want a decent QB too, but with all the holes around him we need a lot of hard work to fix up the place we live in first. Instant fixes are fantasy fodder. We live in a real world, at least most of us do. Football is a team sport, he can't throw the ball, catch it and play defense all by himself, no matter how great a QB he turns out to be. And if he turns out to be a total bust, here comes another 17 years of futility ahead and the Bills team is just another a bum living out on the street. Edited February 19, 2018 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, simpleman said: Oh the Casinos love people like you coming in the doors. Hey, so what if the mortgage payment is overdue and they are threatening to foreclose next week if I don't pay. I have the money to make the payment and keep the house, but hey, if I take that money to the casino and hit the jackpot I'm a millionaire and I can have a fantastic house instead of just any old decent house. They make their profit off of people who gamble like you. I'm sure the lotto people love you too. I want a decent QB too, but with all the holes around him we need a lot of hard work to fix up the place we live in first. Instant fixes are fantasy fodder. We live in a real world, at least most of us do. Football is a team sport, he can't throw the ball, catch it and play defense all by himself, no matter how great a QB he turns out to be. And if he turns out to be a total bust, here comes another 17 years of futility ahead and the Bills team is just another a bum living out on the street. You're talking about something that is random chance. Drafting a QB is a calculated risk as is drafting any position. There will always be holes to fill every year. None is bigger than QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: For all intensive purposes, your grammar sucks! *Yo'ureh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: “Hear me out” is always a great way to start a thread title... Yeah but, Here me out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 As long as the Bills get one of their guys then it doesn't matter. This is the dating phase so I think the Bills have a lot of candidates and not one like all of these reports suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Missing on a qb hurts — but the perk is if you miss, odds are you’re getting another swing at it pretty soon. They aren’t getting huge deals and you have to find one. Take a swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think the answer is no. I'm waiting to read a post of who is the can't miss prospect (granted no one is without flaws .. but worth the cost of trading the farm) in this year's class ... if such a mesiah doesn't exists ... then I'm good holding our draft capital and selecting who drops to 21-22 and pick our QB there or as others have said ... if Mayfield drops into the teens .. then make that move. Statistically from what I read (net of height concerns) ... I like him the best of all .. but don't think I'd trade the farm to get him over a Rudolph, L Jax, or Mike White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think you play the draft the way you play the game. You don't force the issue and take the field goal and never go for 2 points until you absolutely have to. So hell no to selling all out for a maybe franchise QB. With all these holes to fill trading down may be the best option again. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah but, Here me out? Maybe it's just missing a comma? Here, me out (I'm coming out of the closet)....also, let's talk QB The possibilities are endless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 23 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I think you play the draft the way you play the game. You don't force the issue and take the field goal and never go for 2 points until you absolutely have to. So hell no to selling all out for a maybe franchise QB. With all these holes to fill trading down may be the best option again. JMHO It's called "playing NOT to lose".... and I choose not to play by that failed philosophy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: It's called "playing NOT to lose".... and I choose not to play by that failed philosophy... Well guess what? Neither of us get to make that decision. I Trust the Process and think they will get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) On 2/18/2018 at 3:33 PM, Seanbillsfan2206 said: “Hear me out” is always a great way to start a thread title... "hear me out" = I know this is stupid, but I am going to post anyway because I am either bored or just don't care if people on this board take me seriously. But most likely a combination of the two..... Edited February 20, 2018 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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