BuffaloBillyG Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I believe for all the talk about the type of QB Beane or McDermott would want, the biggest deciding factor could be a much simpler set of circumstances. Last off season the defensive backfield was rebuilt not with big names, but with players that fit into the system. I believe it's just that simple with QB. That's how they have built this team so far. We all know Daboll is expected to implement the E-P offense. I know the system can be altered to fit strengths of who we draft/sign, but is there anyone in the draft that right now is an excellent fit for the system? Is there anyone that is a complete mismatch for what we plan to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I really hope the last guy to the party (who was in some ways an after thought) and with is dismal offensive results in previous stops...isn’t going to be commanding the general input on QB decisions. Get the Best QB. Forget Daboll. If you move mountains to get one of these QBs then Daboll will be the first one gone after 2018 if it isn’t working. He’s low man on the totem poll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Daboll isn't the key at all. Beane is going to draft the best QB prospect period. OCs come and go. Haven't we learned the lesson of drafting players to fit a specific system? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 What makes you think Daboll knows what a QB looks like? He's never had one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I see it the other way around; who we draft might be the key to Brian Daboll. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I don’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, K-9 said: I see it the other way around; who we draft might be the key to Brian Daboll. Well put. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: I believe for all the talk about the type of QB Beane or McDermott would want, the biggest deciding factor could be a much simpler set of circumstances. Last off season the defensive backfield was rebuilt not with big names, but with players that fit into the system. I believe it's just that simple with QB. That's how they have built this team so far. We all know Daboll is expected to implement the E-P offense. I know the system can be altered to fit strengths of who we draft/sign, but is there anyone in the draft that right now is an excellent fit for the system? Is there anyone that is a complete mismatch for what we plan to do? In my opinion, the highest vote in the QB decision will be McDermott with Beane being the second highest vote, Pegula being the 3rd highest (with veto rights) and Daboll being number 4 on the list. Daboll's power lies in the fact that he will have McDermott's ear. If he lobbies hard enough, he could help sway a decision. But I think McDermott is going to ultimately decide which QB is going to make or break his career in Buffalo. And I think Beane and Pegula will give him the right to that "make-or-break" decision. Edited February 18, 2018 by PolishDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I really hope the last guy to the party (who was in some ways an after thought) and with is dismal offensive results in previous stops...isn’t going to be commanding the general input on QB decisions. Get the Best QB. Forget Daboll. If you move mountains to get one of these QBs then Daboll will be the first one gone after 2018 if it isn’t working. He’s low man on the totem poll. I agree totally. There are hundreds of OC's out there, and maybe a few future solid NFL qb's coming out of college. Consider us lucky to have made the playoffs and yet still have enough draft capital to move up enough to grab a top qb prospect without giving away any picks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 it don't matter who we draft. It matters if he runs a system tailored to the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Wrong. Sean McDermott is the key to who we draft. McDermott has the most power at OBD. No doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: I believe for all the talk about the type of QB Beane or McDermott would want, the biggest deciding factor could be a much simpler set of circumstances. Last off season the defensive backfield was rebuilt not with big names, but with players that fit into the system. I believe it's just that simple with QB. That's how they have built this team so far. We all know Daboll is expected to implement the E-P offense. I know the system can be altered to fit strengths of who we draft/sign, but is there anyone in the draft that right now is an excellent fit for the system? Is there anyone that is a complete mismatch for what we plan to do? The only QB that I totally don't want to see in B'lo with an E-P offense is Bradford. In addition to the fragility concerns, when McDaniels was Bradford's OC for a year, Bradford had an offensive performance that would have gotten him bundled up and put out for the trash if he hadn't been a #1 draft pick tied up with a then-record salary. Now maybe that was the combination between an inexperienced QB and an OC inexperienced at tutoring guys, but I don't want to take the chance. I think the #1 thing you need to execute an E-P offense is a smart guy who can make the short to intermediate throws with pinpoint accuracy. And frankly, I want to see a QB drafted who has proven accuracy and adequate arm strength no matter what. I think that Allen would probably be a bad fit. I think that Lauletta and White would both have to eat their Wheaties and hit the weight room, along with Peterman. Other than that, the real questions have to do with ability to learn and retain information and ability to get all the WR on the same page with them, which are things fans can't evaluate. 1 hour ago, PolishDave said: In my opinion, the highest vote in the QB decision will be McDermott with Beane being the second highest vote, Pegula being the 3rd highest (with veto rights) and Daboll being number 4 on the list. Daboll's power lies in the fact that he will have McDermott's ear. If he lobbies hard enough, he could help sway a decision. But I think McDermott is going to ultimately decide which QB is going to make or break his career in Buffalo. And I think Beane and Pegula will give him the right to that "make-or-break" decision. I most sincerely hope you are completely mistaken Edited February 18, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I most sincerely hope you are completely mistaken Could be. The impression I get from OBD is that Pegula is very much involved - only from a veto/approval standpoint though. Could be totally wrong though. If he wasn't that involved, then I don't think he makes the trip with his staff to go talk to players. And I think he has done that more than once if I recall correctly. Edited February 18, 2018 by PolishDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Could be. The impression I get from OBD is that Pegula is very much involved - only from a veto/approval standpoint though. Could be totally wrong though. If he wasn't that involved, then I don't think he makes the trip with his staff to go talk to players. And I think he has done that more than once if I recall correctly. A guy can be very involved from a spectator standpoint. It's his toy, he wants to watch it work. He wants to see what they're talking about. That's OK If he's actually mixing into football decisions, that's very bad news indeed for the Bills. Never ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Brian Daboll will have 0 impact on the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Daboll isn't the key at all. Beane is going to draft the best QB prospect period. OCs come and go. Haven't we learned the lesson of drafting players to fit a specific system? This. It's NOT the system that makes the QB. If you draft the right QB, he'll likely outlast the current coaching staff and maybe even the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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