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Mike Mayock's Final 2018 Draft Position Rankings & Top 100 Prospects - Mock Draft on Wednesday at 8 PM ET on NFLN

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4 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

You must be more qualified to rank the prospects then.  What’s your rankings ?

Actually when you talk qualifications...yes he is just as qualified. Mayock has never been a GM, Scout, or in any way worked in a front office. He gives his opinions. His opinions are not gospel and if you ask 50 "draft experts" their opinions this time of year you get 50 different answers.

 

 

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3 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

The Bills will take White from Western Kentucky at pick #21

 

Hopefully in the second round. 

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Mayock gets his rankings from what he is hearing in league circles.

 

I think people are going to be surprised when Allen is drafted really high.  Rosen is overrated, not sure why people are so in love with him.  Attitude and injuries are too big of negatives for him to go high.

 

 

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Just now, Ittakestime said:

Mayock gets his rankings from what he is hearing in league circles.

 

I think people are going to be surprised when Allen is drafted really high.  Rosen is overrated, not sure why people are so in love with him.  Attitude and injuries are too big of negatives for him to go high.

 

 

Get ready to be surprised!

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5 hours ago, D521646 said:

I think, without reservation, that this might be the best QB draft class since 2004.  We may well see at least 5 QB's taken in the first round, maybe more?

 

Tim-

 

The best?! :lol:

Only if by "best" you mean "most hype driven"

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

Mayock gets his rankings from what he is hearing in league circles.

 

 

 

 

Nope.

 

He does his own work-ups and provides his own grades.

 

Think about it--why would he have a guy like Dalvin Cook as his RB1 when it was obvious he was going to slip due to character concerns?

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48 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Nope.

 

He does his own work-ups and provides his own grades.

 

Think about it--why would he have a guy like Dalvin Cook as his RB1 when it was obvious he was going to slip due to character concerns?

He stole Cook from me! Hope he didn't love Glennon half as much. 

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5 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

Mayock is a good media draft prospect evaluator, EXCEPT at QB

I think he bases his rankings mostly on what he hears. I'm willing to bet the top 3 is how most of the real NFL scouts see it. 

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Just now, TheTruthHurts said:

I think he bases his rankings mostly on what he hears. I'm willing to bet the top 3 is how most of the real NFL scouts see it. 

 

He watches a ton of game film too. 

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Darnold looks like a cross between Eric Wood and Jethro Bodine. If he ends up sucking, that would be very, very annoying to me. Rosen please.

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That was really funny rico.

 

If we draft josh allen, im gonna barf and  start watching a good amount of jets games to see how Mayfield pans out.

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10 hours ago, KGun12TD said:

I love Mayock, but Allen at #2...WOW! Nope.

Mel Kiper has him ranked #1 overall after his performance at the senior bowl.

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8 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Mel Kiper has him ranked #1 overall after his performance at the senior bowl.

 

Crazy stuff!  I get the whole “tools/upside” thing, but was he about 56% through college? It’s hard to get past that. 

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I can't believe I'm going to say this .... but the more I read ... I'm leaning to Jackson (as we don't have to trade away our entire draft to get him)  .. and think maybe he can be different than Tyrod ... given below analysis among others of multiple reads and pocket passing.  His arm based on highlights looks like a rocket.  I was thinking Mason at first .. but the intangibles with Jackson outweigh Rudolph in my opinion who plays in a wide open Big 12 (heave it up and they will catch it).

 

I also like White from Western Ky but don't see him in first round .. so who knows take two QB's?  Who Needs veterans -- now that is out of the box thinking ... Nate, Jackson, and White?

 

4. Lamar Jackson, Louisville, 6’3, 211 lbs.

Jackson has an amazing skill set with a powerful arm that allows him to make throws off a platform that many NFL quarterbacks couldn’t even dream of making. He is tough in the pocket, knows his scheme well, and has amazing athleticism and speed as a runner. Jackson looks like a taller and right-handed version of Michael Vick. In 2017, Jackson completed 59 percent of his passes for 3,660 yards with 27 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He averaged 6.9 yards per carry on the ground on his way to 1,601 yards and 18 rushing touchdowns.

Jackson isn’t respected enough as a quarterback though. The knocks are predictable: He’s too skinny, his footwork needs to be improved and he doesn’t win from the pocket. Those arguments don’t take into account multiple factors.

First, Jackson improved each season from the pocket. Second, Bobby Petrino’s offense asked him to make multiple reads in the passing game. Finally, Jackson is only 20 years old and still developing. No one can deny his production and consistent dominance against top competition.

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13 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

I think he bases his rankings mostly on what he hears. I'm willing to bet the top 3 is how most of the real NFL scouts see it. 

 

That is not at all how he compiles his rankings, he actually does the leg work, which makes him a better talent evaluator then other media pundits.

 

My point was this: he is the best media talent evaluator out there, not necessarily a mocker, but talent evaluator so I tend to trust his thoughts on prospects more than others. BUT, he has a bad track record at the QB position

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I like Mike but there's just no way Allen from a production standpoint and even when you look at film, there's no way he's the #2 QB.  Mike has to have him here on potential alone because there's nothing else to support that ranking.  NOTHING!!

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The Bills should sit tight and take whichever QB is still there at 22. Take your higher rated player at 21. What’s the worst that can happen? If he doesn’t work out is it really that much worse than Lawson, Ragland, Sammy or the long list of high picks that went on to ‘greatness’ for the franchise.

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8 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Mel Kiper has him ranked #1 overall after his performance at the senior bowl.

 

His son works for the Jets and they're super high on him. This is Mel getting ahead of the story when they take him at #6.

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15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Interesting stat to look at.

 

Interesting stat for sure, but I don't really know what to make of it. Using percentage for air yards seems weird to me. You could argue a high percentage = your ball placement isn't good, resulting in a lack of YAC and also argue that a low percentage = you rely on YAC and can't push the ball down the field. I don't know why someone would choose to use the percentage instead of just average air yards per attempt or something.

27 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

I like Mike but there's just no way Allen from a production standpoint and even when you look at film, there's no way he's the #2 QB.  Mike has to have him here on potential alone because there's nothing else to support that ranking.  NOTHING!!

 

Well, sure, obviously potential is a major factor when it comes to drafting your future players. Having a ton of potential should absolutely boost a player's draft stock.

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This ranking will change after the combine an pro days. It's February, we need a QB so this is what we do. 

 

In the WGR piece Mayock said that Allen may have the highest floor. He said Allen has prototypical size, and his big arm will make GMs fall in love with him. He does everything well, but doesn't do any one thing great. 

 

Each one of the top 6 - 8 QB in this class has concerns. Whether it's turnovers, completion percentage, previous injuries, size, character concerns, offensive system , etc, etc. But they are all legitimate first round grades.

 

I've talked myself in and out of each of these guys. Will we trade up for a top 2 guy? (whoever that is) or sit tight and see who falls to us at 21? I cannot wait for the draft. 

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