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Bills refused to let Shady run out of the gun in 2017

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2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Fundamentally disagree. Anyone who watched Shady this year could see that he had not lost a step AT ALL. He was as explosive as ever, but he was being hammered in the backfield constantly by multiple tacklers. 

I think there's a difference between "lost a step' and being 5 years older.

 

I'm not sure there's any 29 y/o RB in NFL history who wasn't a little more effective at 24/25 and 1,100 NFL touches less.

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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

McCoy lead the NFL in negative yardage runs.

So what you're saying is, it didn't work.

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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Maybe I’m an idiot (ok I know I am) but if the OL is struggling to block for him running it between the tackles with the new scheme, should they not adjust the way he’s getting the ball? If not the blocking scheme? I did think that they adjusted the blocking scheme as the season went on...

They "adjusted" a lot over the course of the season. That's part of the problem. They weren't running Dennison's offense or Roman's. It was some kind of mutated Frankenstein hybrid.

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13 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Well, Lesean McCoy was 4th in the NFL in rushing yards.

But the original comment was that maybe they did it to reduce the negative yards which he led the league in.  So it didn't work was my point.

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Just now, The Wiz said:

But the original comment was that maybe they did it to reduce the negative yards which he led the league in.  So it didn't work was my point.

Ah, gotcha!

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Bills were extremely lucky to get into the playoffs this season (thanks again to Dalton!).......Dennison was completely lost all season in trying to form a successful offence/plan...glad he was shown the door.....now l want to see how McDee/Beans can form a new competitive offence for next season.......

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4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

If you are really an idiot, are you sure you would know? :huh:

I can vouch for him.
 

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1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

How.....kind of you? 

absolutely !

 Our kind? we stick together.

 sometimes it's the super glue. but most times its just cuz

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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

But the original comment was that maybe they did it to reduce the negative yards which he led the league in.  So it didn't work was my point.

 

Correct.

 

Though to be more honest to the situation..........many of the TFL's were taken in second halves of games where the Bills were nursing leads and willing to sacrifice drives to burn clock, maintain a field position advantage and not turn the ball over.

 

One of the more clueless narratives of the late season was "the Bills really *struggle* offensively in second halves".........when they had leads and weren't really making much of an effort to score.

 

McCoy and Taylor did whatever it took for the team to "not lose" games.........and the net result were some unflattering stats for those two.

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4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Fundamentally disagree. Anyone who watched Shady this year could see that he had not lost a step AT ALL. He was as explosive as ever, but he was being hammered in the backfield constantly by multiple tacklers. 

 

I think he's a much smarter runner than the guy they acquired.   He takes small profits inside now on runs that he'd have carried out of bounds for no gain or a loss a couple years ago.    I don't believe that he hasn't lost a step I just think he's made up for it by playing smarter.  He took more hard hits this year than he had in the previous two years in Buffalo.  That workload/beating concerns me.   I'd like to see him down closer to 200 carries next season and not use him to protect leads when there is no real effort being made to score.  

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34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Correct.

 

Though to be more honest to the situation..........many of the TFL's were taken in second halves of games where the Bills were nursing leads and willing to sacrifice drives to burn clock, maintain a field position advantage and not turn the ball over.

 

One of the more clueless narratives of the late season was "the Bills really *struggle* offensively in second halves".........when they had leads and weren't really making much of an effort to score.

 

McCoy and Taylor did whatever it took for the team to "not lose" games.........and the net result were some unflattering stats for those two.

That was pretty much the strategy all year.

 

Get a lead, no matter how early in the game, and sit on it. It was extremely boring and frustrating to watch at times and led to many fans basically blaming Tyrod for all that was wrong with the offense. 

 

The offense was WAYYY too conservative. We will find out soon how much of that was on McDermott or if it was more so Dennison/them not trusting Tyrod.

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That's one way to tell the opposing D the play you are likely to use.  :(  

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14 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

Last year was tough, we had a badly flawed qb and a stubborn and flawed o coach.   

Things will be better this year they are both gone 

Still have Castillo so not much will change since the oline will still suck at blocking anything.

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9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I think he's a much smarter runner than the guy they acquired.   He takes small profits inside now on runs that he'd have carried out of bounds for no gain or a loss a couple years ago.    I don't believe that he hasn't lost a step I just think he's made up for it by playing smarter.  He took more hard hits this year than he had in the previous two years in Buffalo.  That workload/beating concerns me.   I'd like to see him down closer to 200 carries next season and not use him to protect leads when there is no real effort being made to score.  

 

hopefully with a better offense we wont be always in the position of trying not to score....unless that truly is McD's way, which I am hoping is not. Yes I get he is a defensive coach, but there are plenty of defensive coaches who let their offenses rip. The issue is, you have to have a QB/offense that can actually move the ball and score without worry of losing the game...hopefully we get that in the next year or two

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