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Just now, matter2003 said:

How is this any different than what owners and the NFLPA decided they didn't want to have when signing first overall picks and other high draft picks to humongous contracts and instituted a rookie cap?

 

Because Garoppolo isn't a rookie. 

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19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Because Garoppolo isn't a rookie. 

 

He hasnt proven much yet either. The test is when NFL D coordinators have a body of work on him to game plan against.  Until that point I'd never commit that type of money to a player.  We've seen far more promising talents than him fall apart once that has happened.

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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

He hasnt proven much yet either. The test is when NFL D coordinators have a body of work on him to game plan against.  Until that point I'd never commit that type of money to a player.  We've seen far more promising talents than him fall apart once that has happened.

Hmmm I'd imagine the list of guys with a release as smooth and quick as Jimmy's is quite short.

 

He is peanut butter jelly with the ball in his hand. Smoooooth. Just add milk.

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14 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

He hasnt proven much yet either. The test is when NFL D coordinators have a body of work on him to game plan against.  Until that point I'd never commit that type of money to a player.  We've seen far more promising talents than him fall apart once that has happened.

 

Name a QB who came in at that level to exhibit the physical and mental traits he's shown that every team is looking for who then went on to fail.  Name the weaknesses or holes in his game that you expect DCs to exploit in order to limit his effectiveness. 

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2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

 

I'm putting together the info for a thread about QB pay adjusted for higher cap increases.

Some people are going to be shocked how much changes for QB pay due to the cap increase.

 

One interesting contract is Ryan Tannehill's.

It was redone from time still left on his rookie contract in 2015.

He signed for an average of 19.25 million.

Factoring in ONLY the increase percentage of the cap increase that same contract is now worth 24 million per year!

 

I'm doing this for all active veteran QBs.

Spoiler Alert:  Rodgers contract signed in 2013 is worth an amazing number today.

 

Can't wait!

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13 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

He hasnt proven much yet either. The test is when NFL D coordinators have a body of work on him to game plan against.  Until that point I'd never commit that type of money to a player.  We've seen far more promising talents than him fall apart once that has happened.

 

 

As many have already pointed out, every top rookie QB draft pick got, essentially, "that type of money" with ZERO body of work---and we all accepted it as no big deal.

 

Now a guy with clear skills and a coaching staff that is more convinced than you are of his value is getting paid a lot of money now so they don't have to pay him even more money next year when his value would certainly go even higher.

 

WHy is this so hard for fans to understand?  And would the average fan (who is not a fan of SF) even care what they are paying this guy?  Makes no sense.

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The asking price for any starting qb is high regardless.   

 

The question TBD is did they overpay like teams have for:

Luck, Tannehill, Osweiller, Stafford 

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On 2/8/2018 at 3:30 PM, NewEraBills said:

Cousins and his agent will probably try to get a similar deal if not more.  It's out of our price range.  Looking more and more like Taylor is an option as the bridge QB after all..

 

Why?

 

QB market, get what you pay for

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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Cowherd....always the last one on the hype train.  makes him come out with this kind of thing.

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http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/129168/breaking-down-jimmy-garoppolos-contract-with-the-49ers

Breaking down the contract

 

As is always the case in these situations, though, the numbers aren't quite as overwhelming as they seem at first glance. Garoppolo's deal comes with $74.1 million in guarantees, including those for injury.

But the true guarantee at signing came out to $48.7 million, which falls well below other true guarantees such as the one given to Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford. Most of that is paid out over the first couple of years, leaving the 49ers flexibility moving forward.

 

Not that earth shattering.   Smoke and mirrors.  

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6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/129168/breaking-down-jimmy-garoppolos-contract-with-the-49ers

Breaking down the contract

 

As is always the case in these situations, though, the numbers aren't quite as overwhelming as they seem at first glance. Garoppolo's deal comes with $74.1 million in guarantees, including those for injury.

But the true guarantee at signing came out to $48.7 million, which falls well below other true guarantees such as the one given to Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford. Most of that is paid out over the first couple of years, leaving the 49ers flexibility moving forward.

 

Not that earth shattering.   Smoke and mirrors.  

 

It's an excellent contract.  If he develops on what he has shown you have a potential top 5 or 6 QB tied up for the best years of his career. If he doesn't you can cut ties pretty easily after year 1 or 2.  

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's an excellent contract.  If he develops on what he has shown you have a potential top 5 or 6 QB tied up for the best years of his career. If he doesn't you can cut ties pretty easily after year 1 or 2.  

Broken down that way, yes. It is reasonable and not the risk the "injury" guarantee implies as a total guarantee.  

 

Also 

Broken down that way, it doesn't make a Cousins deal that crazy. 

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44 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/129168/breaking-down-jimmy-garoppolos-contract-with-the-49ers

Breaking down the contract

 

As is always the case in these situations, though, the numbers aren't quite as overwhelming as they seem at first glance. Garoppolo's deal comes with $74.1 million in guarantees, including those for injury.

But the true guarantee at signing came out to $48.7 million, which falls well below other true guarantees such as the one given to Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford. Most of that is paid out over the first couple of years, leaving the 49ers flexibility moving forward.

 

Not that earth shattering.   Smoke and mirrors.  

as are most big contracts

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Just now, nucci said:

as are most big contracts

Correct.    It the way the story broke.    GIGO   Garbage In Garbage Out. 

 

BREAKING NEWS  $74Mil Guaranteed!!!   

 

Truth  $48.7 Mil Guaranteed

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Correct.    It the way the story broke.    GIGO   Garbage In Garbage Out. 

 

BREAKING NEWS  $74Mil Guaranteed!!!   

 

Truth  $48.7 Mil Guaranteed

Which means it's a good deal for both. Garopollo gets rich and 49ers can get out after a couple of years if he doesn't play well. Which is why if Bills choose to try and sign Cousins, they can do it and still build team around him

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3 minutes ago, nucci said:

Which means it's a good deal for both. Garopollo gets rich and 49ers can get out after a couple of years if he doesn't play well. Which is why if Bills choose to try and sign Cousins, they can do it and still build team around him

If you read above from today, I already agreed to this.  

 

The initial knee jerk reactions people made were about the $74 Mil guaranteed, which was discussed for days -  which did not mention injury guarantee.  (at least to my knowledge) 

 

Now that the clarification has been made it looks better for all parties.  

 

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Broken down that way, yes. It is reasonable and not the risk the "injury" guarantee implies as a total guarantee.  

 

Also 

Broken down that way, it doesn't make a Cousins deal that crazy. 

 

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8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

If you read above from today, I already agreed to this.  

 

The initial knee jerk reactions people made were about the $74 Mil guaranteed, which was discussed for days -  which did not mention injury guarantee.  (at least to my knowledge) 

 

 

 

 

I know. I was agreeing with you too

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22 minutes ago, nucci said:

I know. I was agreeing with you too

:D    :beer:  

Just making sure because I thought it wasn't good based on the initial reports.    :thumbsup:

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10 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Not that earth shattering.   Smoke and mirrors.  

 

More important it is for his agent.

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1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

More important it is for his agent.

Does the agent get a cut of the 70 or 45?   

I have no clue how they get paid.  

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

Does the agent get a cut of the 70 or 45?   

I have no clue how they get paid.  

They get a cut as player gets paid so get portion of bonuses.  If a player dismisses agent before money the agent gets none of it so 2nd year money bonus, etc can be lost.

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Jimmy Garoppolo can now truly dive into Kyle Shanahan's offense

Nick Wagoner

Garoppolo and the Niners are well aware of those who question giving him such a massive contract despite the small sample. Some argue that if the league's defensive coordinators have a chance to study Garoppolo in the offseason, they will find weaknesses and ways to expose him. Of course, Garoppolo isn't running some sort of gimmick offense with which it's just a matter of time before defenses catch up to him. He's a pocket passer with a lightning-quick release and the ability to process coverages and get through progressions in short order.

 

One of the many reasons the 49ers believe so strongly in Garoppolo is they think he is just scratching the surface of his potential. Beyond using free-agent and draft resources to bolster his supporting cast, Garoppolo is about to get his first offseason diving fully into Shanahan's offense.

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So the deal is basically what I figured it would be. 

 

49ers loaded the cap hit for 2018 (since they have a ridiculous amount of cap space), and have a pretty easy out after 2-3 years. 

 

Well worth the small gamble SF is taking - which is basically just some cap space lost this year. Even with Jimmy G's $37M hit, the 49ers have $80M left for 2018. So they still have more cap space than every team but 1 (Cleveland). And if Garoppolo works out, they have their franchise QB locked up for years.

 

Great deal for San Fran IMO. They've been pretty smart with their QB contracts in recent years (Kaepernick, Garoppolo). 

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