ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: you felt scolded ? sorry I corrected my mistake. still $3 Mil cap space or there about once the numbers are finalized / released. how many top FA's can we get with $3 M? Shady, you got too much for Draft Pool. Displaced players will cost about 5.5 million. That is 4 million more than your figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Shady, you got too much for Draft Pool. Displaced players will cost about 5.5 million. That is 4 million more than your figures. So back to $7 mil? If we should believe Beane then what’s left is to take care of the guys that have or want to retain and have a “safety” buffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: So back to $7 mil? If we should believe Beane then what’s left is to take care of the guys that have or want to retain and have a “safety” buffer. Pretty much, with a couple of "little moves" maybe they can get 1 more mid level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 What I am missing here? Spotrac has us at 26 million in cap space. The only contract I see that they don't have is Murphy and Williams. I'm sure they did it like Star's where there is less cap now and more next year. Why wouldn't we have around 15 million in cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: What I am missing here? Spotrac has us at 26 million in cap space. The only contract I see that they don't have is Murphy and Williams. I'm sure they did it like Star's where there is less cap now and more next year. Why wouldn't we have around 15 million in cap space? 26 - 6 (Kyle is a 1 year deal) - Murphy (7, but yes you could be right so everyone is waiting) - few 100k with lower signings vs current top 51 guys. That could take you down to 12-13. Minus Rookie Pool - 9.5 but those guys get offset so more like 5.5. Takes you down to 7-8. Could be more with you point about Murphy. Then what they get with Incognito space. Beane has said he doesn't like to get too close to the bottom. (5 or so?). Not a lot of room left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: 26 - 6 (Kyle is a 1 year deal) - Murphy (7, but yes you could be right so everyone is waiting) - few 100k with lower signings vs current top 51 guys. That could take you down to 12-13. Minus Rookie Pool - 9.5 but those guys get offset so more like 5.5. Takes you down to 7-8. Could be more with you point about Murphy. Then what they get with Incognito space. Beane has said he doesn't like to get too close to the bottom. (5 or so?). Not a lot of room left. Vontae is on a one year deal and his cap hit is less than his salary. Rookie pool is in already spotrac number. Incognito's decrease isn't. There should be no reason why we don't have over 15 million left Edited March 16, 2018 by Ittakestime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Vontae is on a one year deal and his cap hit is less than his salary. Rookie pool is already spotrac number. Incognito's decrease isn't. There should be no reason why we don't have over 15 million left Cap Space (w/All) $22,558,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $16,632,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $26,398,557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Vontae is on a one year deal and his cap hit is less than his salary. Rookie pool is in already spotrac number. Incognito's decrease isn't. There should be no reason why we don't have over 15 million left Travaris Cadet RB - - Taiwan Jones RB - - Trent Murphy OLB - - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE - - Logan Thomas TE - - Kyle Williams DT - Those 6 players as I see it do not have any $ figures allocated. Maybe I am making a mistake but my assumption is that those players add up to over $15 million. KW was reported as $6 mil and Trent Murphy 3 for $21. My assumption is basically an even split of 7 7 7 Edited March 16, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) MAR 14 2018. Trent Murphy. Agreed to a 3 year $21 million contract MAR 13 2018. Kyle Williams Signed a 1 year $6 million contract extension Edited March 16, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) Still think we have way more than Beane is leading on. 21.9 top 51 9.7 for draft The top 51 doesn't include Kyle, but also includes Richie at his old number and Eric Wood (obviously they are doing something there or he would have just retired already). Edited March 17, 2018 by Ittakestime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Top 51 Cap Allocations $166,879,902 Total Cap Allocations $171,199,902 Cap Space (Total Cap) $17,583,557 Cap Space (Top 51 only) $21,903,557 Travaris Cadet RB - - Taiwan Jones RB - - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE - - Logan Thomas TE - - Kyle Williams DT - - Missing $6 for Kyle and what the vet min for the other 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Top 51 Cap Allocations $166,879,902 Total Cap Allocations $171,199,902 Cap Space (Total Cap) $17,583,557 Cap Space (Top 51 only) $21,903,557 Travaris Cadet RB - - Taiwan Jones RB - - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE - - Logan Thomas TE - - Kyle Williams DT - - Missing $6 for Kyle and what the vet min for the other 4? Don't think Kyle has a 6 million dollar cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) The 2018 numbers for the 2 “big” FA’s Star Lotulelei DT ($18,500,000) $6,700,000 Trent Murphy OLB ($7,875,000) $4,975,000 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Don't think Kyle has a 6 million dollar cap hit. KW signed a 1 year deal for $6 mil. MAR 13 2018. Kyle Williams. Signed a 1 year $6 million contract extension with Buffalo (BUF) How else does it break down? What are your thoughts? Edited March 17, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 No updates for those still not reading the cap #s and accounting for cap money still not allocated. Cap Space (Top 51 only) $21,903,557 Travaris Cadet RB - - Taiwan Jones RB - - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE - - Logan Thomas TE - - Kyle Williams DT - - MAR 13 2018. Kyle Williams. Signed a 1 year $6 million contract extension with Buffalo (BUF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer Bills general manager Brandon Beane said the contractual situation surrounding center Eric Wood and his career-ending neck injury remains on his "back burner." Wood has yet to officially be released or retire in what is believed to be a hold up over how his retirement will affect the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Bills have at worst right around 13M in cap space RIGHT Now (already accounting for the Draft pool). Add that in and we are around 22M in space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Bills have at worst right around 13M in cap space RIGHT Now (already accounting for the Draft pool). Add that in and we are around 22M in space Still missing $ for the 5 FA’s (at vet min?) and Kyles 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Still missing $ for the 5 FA’s (at vet min?) and Kyles 6. Nope counted. Kyle will count 5.5 because as he comes on 500k falls off do 21 goes to 16. Then as all the others add 550 drops off with the too 51 rule. There is roughly 13M at Min in space. If you add in Rookie pool (which at this point you can) there is 22M in space. People have to remember for every contract signed money will also fall off cap as we lose a contract past the top 51 so as the 6 that are uncounted on spotrac come on another 3.3M come off the cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills/ Edited March 21, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Incognitos restructure saves 1.675 mill this year. https://mobile.twitter.com/FieldYates/status/976472774217781249 Edited March 21, 2018 by Cruiserplayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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