starrymessenger Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rob's House said: What would you guys think about taking Saquon Barkley at that spot? I believe the Browns will be doing that if Indy hasnt. I would not do it from a Bills perspective. He's a generational talent and we need to draft a RB, maybe even a potential franchise back, but it's a deep class and no matter how great Barkely is he is just one player (and not a QB) and I don't see the value in burning that kind of draft capital for him. Edited January 20, 2018 by starrymessenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Giants at #2 is a possibility if they don't want to take a QB. Beane worked with Gettleman so the relationship exists to get something done. Both 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd, and Glenn. Edited January 19, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said: I think other teams wanting to trade up will drive up the price above what the actual value is Agreed. I could even see Denver moving up to 2. I could see a situation in which the Browns take a QB 1st and the giants colts and browns all trade out of 2-4 to teams that want to draft Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It really comes down to what the Browns want to do. Do they want quantity or quality? It also depends on if they sign Cousins. They can take Barkley at 1 and then I’d suspect that they definitely trade down at 4. I like Fitzpatrick a lot but not more than Josh Jackson, Connor Williams and Anthony Miller (or something like that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I cant see the Bill trading up into the top five. That would be too expensive. I can see the Bills trading into pick 10-15 if a player falls that they like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkx2 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Who would we be trading up for if Cleveland and NY take QBs and then a team trades up with the Colts for a QB? Hypothetically, we could be giving up multiple 1st round picks for the 4th best QB. You mean like when Miami got the 4th best quarterback in the 1st round named Dan Marino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Darnold is the only one worth moving up for. If Cleveland is dumb enough to pick Allen then we should make a phone call if Sam is there @ 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Cleveland can be a partner at #4. If I was them I would stand pat, take a QB at #1 and pick best player available on defense at #4. If Cleveland takes a QB other than Rosen or Darnold and one of those two are available at #4 I would trade the farm for #4. But, it depends on our draft board too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: I cant see the Bill trading up into the top five. That would be too expensive. I can see the Bills trading into pick 10-15 if a player falls that they like. Yeah, who needs a great QB, especially when you may have to give up a lot. The last 20 years have been a blast! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Who would we be trading up for if Cleveland and NY take QBs and then a team trades up with the Colts for a QB? Hypothetically, we could be giving up multiple 1st round picks for the 4th best QB. If you believe the third or fourth ranked qb on your board is a franchise qb then it would be worth it. If you believe that another qb, if he is more developmental but with the potential to be a franchise qb, such as Jackson, then let the draft come to you. It depends how your organization ranks the qb. Your third ranked qb could be the fourth or fifth ranked qb for another organization. Your top ranked qb could be the third ranked qb on another team's board. I'm very high on Mayfield. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there were teams had little interest in him at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah, who needs a great QB, especially when you may have to give up a lot. The last 20 years have been a blast! ....seeing we are in the perfect position, surrendering all of that draft capital for a QB makes PERFECT sense when you consider we have absolutely NO other needs or holes to fill, right?........21....22....23.....Vegas over/under for 2018 "W's" came out today....Bflo is 7.5..................they must have read this thread............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If this regime has identified a franchise QB, I'd hope our GM would move up the board to get him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Darnold is the only one worth moving up for. If Cleveland is dumb enough to pick Allen then we should make a phone call if Sam is there @ 4. If Cleveland takes Allen you want to trade up to three. Indy will be fielding a million phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....seeing we are in the perfect position, surrendering all of that draft capital for a QB makes PERFECT sense when you consider we have absolutely NO other needs or holes to fill, right?........21....22....23.....Vegas over/under for 2018 "W's" came out today....Bflo is 7.5..................they must have read this thread............. Yeah, too bad it just isn’t about next year. Let’s push QB off until April of 2019. That would most certainly work out well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Darnold is the only one worth moving up for. If Cleveland is dumb enough to pick Allen then we should make a phone call if Sam is there @ 4. What are your credentials to be making such a bold statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah, too bad it just isn’t about next year. Let’s push QB off until April of 2019. That would most certainly work out well. ...there is just NO way in hell I see this gang as riverboat gamblers with draft capital, BEST we have had in years, BOE.......still think their QB guy is Rudolph who Beane personally scouted twice, once at WVU game and at his bowl game...by most accounts, he'll be there at 21 or even later.....safe and perhaps unsexy pick, but I just sense him as their target....surrendering significant capital to move up (doubt they would target the Big 4 QB's) doesn't fit their conservative nature......so now you still have high draft capital for OL/DL or DL/OL, whichever is the priority preference.....perhaps LB next and a late, LATE RB (maybe)......not sure about RB though......don't really know what we have in Jones, Cadet & Murphy due to injury......I could be dead by April 2019 so you'll have to text me in "Hell's Kitchen", my known final resting place................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah, too bad it just isn’t about next year. Let’s push QB off until April of 2019. That would most certainly work out well. If we will be losing (as you seem to suggest what will happen if we don't sell the farm) and not make the playoffs what would that hurt? You could build a strong roster and in 2019 everything will be set for a Franchise QB. But sure get a QB. Let him die behind a terrible right side, no HB Depth to take the pressure off, and then you'll be calling him a bust by week 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I mean, we do have a history of trading with them for the #4 spot in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, JohnC said: If you believe the third or fourth ranked qb on your board is a franchise qb then it would be worth it. If you believe that another qb, if he is more developmental but with the potential to be a franchise qb, such as Jackson, then let the draft come to you. It depends how your organization ranks the qb. Your third ranked qb could be the fourth or fifth ranked qb for another organization. Your top ranked qb could be the third ranked qb on another team's board. I'm very high on Mayfield. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there were teams had little interest in him at all. I can see them looking to next years draft for the answer at QB. Conceptually speaking. They still must draft one this season and i agree with your viewpoint very much. Plenty of holes to fill so i hope to not lose picks this year. But as mentioned. they see The Guy , and can get a line of sight on him ? Go for it. Otherwise let the draft come to you generally speaking. Go Bills. 6 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: If we will be losing (as you seem to suggest what will happen if we don't sell the farm) and not make the playoffs what would that hurt? You could build a strong roster and in 2019 everything will be set for a Franchise QB. But sure get a QB. Let him die behind a terrible right side, no HB Depth to take the pressure off, and then you'll be calling him a bust by week 5. Bills scouting Staff has plenty of work they need to succeed for this draft and FA. I am honestly excited for it, even though it may well be dull as heck. Solid picks/pickups are all I ask, with a decent hit rate in the draft again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...there is just NO way in hell I see this gang as riverboat gamblers with draft capital, BEST we have had in years, BOE.......still think their QB guy is Rudolph who Beane personally scouted twice, once at WVU game and at his bowl game...by most accounts, he'll be there at 21 or even later.....safe and perhaps unsexy pick, but I just sense him as their target....surrendering significant capital to move up (doubt they would target the Big 4 QB's) doesn't fit their conservative nature......so now you still have high draft capital for OL/DL or DL/OL, whichever is the priority preference.....perhaps LB next and a late, LATE RB (maybe)......not sure about RB though......don't really know what we have in Jones, Cadet & Murphy due to injury......I could be dead by April 2019 so you'll have to text me in "Hell's Kitchen", my known final resting place................ I don’t necessarily care who their guy is, I just don’t want them to make the mistake Dumbahoe did in 2004 when he wouldn’t pay Houston what Houston wanted to move into their slot so Dumbahoe could pick the guy he really wanted....Big Ben. 9 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: If we will be losing (as you seem to suggest what will happen if we don't sell the farm) and not make the playoffs what would that hurt? You could build a strong roster and in 2019 everything will be set for a Franchise QB. But sure get a QB. Let him die behind a terrible right side, no HB Depth to take the pressure off, and then you'll be calling him a bust by week 5. We won’t have other draft picks....and we aren’t allowed to sign free agents this year? Thanks. I didn’t know that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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