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I think this is the most telling thing of last weekend's games.   The Jags demolished Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh offensively and our D went down to Duval County the week prior (along with a lot of Bills Mafia support) and held the home team to 10 points and Blake Bortles ran more than Fornette who averaged 2.7 yards per carry against us. 

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Lol so you're saying those were difficult throws that Bortles missed?  The Bills D didn't play bad... but the Jags should easily have put up 20+ pts.

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13 minutes ago, Jobot said:

Lol so you're saying those were difficult throws that Bortles missed?  The Bills D didn't play bad... but the Jags should easily have put up 20+ pts.

But they didn't.  Which is the point.  

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Have you ever heard the phrase "On any given Sunday"? With your logic, if Team A beats team B, and team B beats team C, then team A should always beat team C. It doesn't work that way.

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24 minutes ago, Jobot said:

Lol so you're saying those were difficult throws that Bortles missed?  The Bills D didn't play bad... but the Jags should easily have put up 20+ pts.

 

How many throws did we miss?

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51 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

And the Vaunted Jacksonville D gave up 45 points to the Steelers where the Bills could only put up 3.

 

Party pooper

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55 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

And the Vaunted Jacksonville D gave up 45 points to the Steelers where the Bills could only put up 3.

 

Sure, but the Bills played without an NFL caliber QB and a decent WR core.

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1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said:

Sure, but the Bills played without an NFL caliber QB and a decent WR core.

so did the Jags

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18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

How many throws did we miss?

In total 20.   the real answer is subtract the balls that were actually dropped

 

not pretend dropped  / catchable 

 

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Well those 2 games showed me 3 things in regards to your statement 

 

1. Steelers defence is awful

2. Bills defence is good

3. Bortles was way better against Pittsburgh

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No, Bortles' complete inability to hit the side of a barn from the inside held the Jags to 10 points.  He had multiple passes hit the ground 5 yards ahead of his receivers.

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11 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Well those 2 games showed me 3 things in regards to your statement 

 

1. Steelers defence is awful

2. Bills defence is good

3. Bortles was way better against Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh was looking ahead to NE*  

That alone is why Tomlin should be in trouble.   Twice this season he put too much attention on them. 

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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Pittsburgh was looking ahead to NE*  

That alone is why Tomlin should be in trouble.   Twice this season he put too much attention on them. 

Yes, very good point

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Its a week to week league. A performance one week does not guarantee the same performance the next week.

 

Why can't people get this basic concept through their heads? Holding a team to 10 points one week doesn't mean if you played them the next week you would have done it again.

 

Its simply a 1 game snapshot and doesn't mean much of anything on how the team will perform the following week.

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6 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

No, Bortles' complete inability to hit the side of a barn from the inside held the Jags to 10 points.  He had multiple passes hit the ground 5 yards ahead of his receivers.

totally agree. sometimes when i'm at a game its harder for me to soak in all the play of certain people on the field...... so by the middle of last week I mustered up the courage to watch game from my dvr. MY GOD WAS BORTLES BAD. plenty of open wr's and he's one hopping balls 5 to 10 yds away from them. it was awful. he hit those throws against pitt and it made them loosen up against the run quite a bit.

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34 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:

Sure, but the Bills played without an NFL caliber QB and a decent WR core.

 

 

So is he MORAL of the story of the Jags win that  you can win  with good WRs and a non franchise QB?

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7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

No, Bortles' complete inability to hit the side of a barn from the inside held the Jags to 10 points.  He had multiple passes hit the ground 5 yards ahead of his receivers.

Do you really think he missed those throws by mistaking the grass for his receiver? I saw what you saw. He was off his game because of our defense. Coverage was good and the pass rush was effective, if only that it disrupted plays. A number of those passes thrown in to the turf were clearly due to this disruption. They were swing passes and short timing routes, if my memory proves accurate.

 

I really don't know what it is with Bortles, because he is clearly not a good QB, but to state that he in unable to hit the side of a barn, while he picked apart the Steelers, unprepared as they may have been, is the idiocy that you so often describe.

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4 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

Do you really think he missed those throws by mistaking the grass for his receiver? I saw what you saw. He was off his game because of our defense. Coverage was good and the pass rush was effective, if only that it disrupted plays. A number of those passes thrown in to the turf were clearly due to this disruption. They were swing passes and short timing routes, if my memory proves accurate.

 

I really don't know what it is with Bortles, because he is clearly not a good QB, but to state that he in unable to hit the side of a barn, while he picked apart the Steelers, unprepared as they may have been, is the idiocy that you so often describe.

bills d played really well..... bortles passing was awful though.

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10 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

So is he MORAL of the story of the Jags win that  you can win  with good WRs and a non franchise QB?

No it means you have a chance to win about half the time or every other game in scenario you describe.

 

That will get most coaches fired within 3 seasons because you will not win all 8 games you only "have a chance to win". This means your ceiling will be at best 7-9 year after year and more times than not you will win less than 7.

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11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

totally agree. sometimes when i'm at a game its harder for me to soak in all the play of certain people on the field...... so by the middle of last week I mustered up the courage to watch game from my dvr. MY GOD WAS BORTLES BAD. plenty of open wr's and he's one hopping balls 5 to 10 yds away from them. it was awful. he hit those throws against pitt and it made them loosen up against the run quite a bit.

 

He's been wildly inconsistent his entire career.

He has always had streaks where he looked like a pro bowlers, alternated with looking like a dumpster fire.

He had a great stretch during the season where he put together like 4-5 great games in a row, which led to tons of sportswriter articles about whether or not bortles had "turned the corner" or "taken the leap"

 

I still wouldn't trust him further than I could throw him, but overall he seems to have learned a lot and improved significantly.

 

As with many talented but underachieving QBs, his greatest area of improvement must be learning to minimize his mistakes, and not just pour fuel on a fire if he is having a poor day.

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10 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

Do you really think he missed those throws by mistaking the grass for his receiver? I saw what you saw. He was off his game because of our defense. Coverage was good and the pass rush was effective, if only that it disrupted plays. A number of those passes thrown in to the turf were clearly due to this disruption. They were swing passes and short timing routes, if my memory proves accurate.

 

I really don't know what it is with Bortles, because he is clearly not a good QB, but to state that he in unable to hit the side of a barn, while he picked apart the Steelers, unprepared as they may have been, is the idiocy that you so often describe.

 

1) I've seen Bortles play more often than just the wild card game.  That level of competence from him is the rule, rather than the exception.

2) Hyperbole, dumbass.  Learn it.

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