TakeYouToTasker Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The current Defensive PI thread got me thinking about a change to Offensive PI I'd like to see, which would be to see it result in a loss of down in addition to a 10 yard walk off. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The current rules on offensive PI are fine... they just need to call it! So many receivers push off, even some (most) of the star WRs around the league. They got good at it too... extending their arm about 80% right before the ball comes, but not 100%, so the zebras let it go, but it's a major advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I guess I don't see the purpose in a loss of down in addition to the 10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: The current rules on offensive PI are fine... they just need to call it! So many receivers push off, even some (most) of the star WRs around the league. They got good at it too... extending their arm about 80% right before the ball comes, but not 100%, so the zebras let it go, but it's a major advantage. They do know how to get away with it....but let me tell you...DBs know how to grab on a break and get away with it too. So I think while the rules favor the offense. Defensive players can get away with stuff and its not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 How does this make the game better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 My only issue with PI is that it gets called at the spot of the foul. It's way too punitive. Make it a 10 yard penalty and loss of down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Why? What does that accomplish? What's wrong with the rule now? Should we just change everything just to change it? How about this. Leave the game and rules the way they are and find people to ref the game that don't have bias. Or let's gets some refs that you know....didn't officiate a game for the Lombardi led Packers and don't have 60 years of confusing rule changes to sift through. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If anything, the penalties need to be simpler and, as someone else already pointed out, they need to be called. Furthermore, penalties need to be called primarily (if not only) when they actually affect a play. If someone puts his hands in someone's face and the play is on the other side of the field, why the !@#$ call it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, seregil42 said: I guess I don't see the purpose in a loss of down in addition to the 10 yards. Ya it's not like international grounding which avoids a sack (loss of yards and down) or illegal pass (incomplete so loss of down and yardage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 It would actually make sense to me if all offensive penalties that occur on a live play result in a loss of down, with the logic being that you shouldn't get a re-do for breaking the rules. Exception would be a downfield spot foul where the spot after the penalty still would've been enough for a 1st on the play. Pre snap penalties would not result in a loss of down because the down hasn't happened yet when the foul occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: My only issue with PI is that it gets called at the spot of the foul. It's way too punitive. Make it a 10 yard penalty and loss of down. Since defensive holding regardless if it is 1st and 10 or 3rd and 50 or 3rd and 1 etc etc............is 5 yds and automatic first down. Why is not offensive holding downfield(also called illegal block, illegal pick).......5 yd penalty and automatic 4th down for offense? Edited January 16, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The league wants touchdowns. The loss of downs and a 10 yd penalty is going in the opposite direction of helping teams score touchdowns.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The penalty for an OPI infraction is fine as is with no need for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Myself personally, I'm not a fan of anything that stalls more drives out. I think O holding should be reduced to a 5 yard penalty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: My only issue with PI is that it gets called at the spot of the foul. It's way too punitive. Make it a 10 yard penalty and loss of down. if it wasn't so punitive you'd see more Defenses abusing it Its fine the way it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: If anything, the penalties need to be simpler and, as someone else already pointed out, they need to be called. Furthermore, penalties need to be called primarily (if not only) when they actually affect a play. If someone puts his hands in someone's face and the play is on the other side of the field, why the !@#$ call it? You are one of the few people that I know who gets smarter when in the last stages of one's downside. I salute you for your wisdom. You may be fading but your lightbulb is still shining bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 as long as the New England "exemption" is kept, I'm fine with it................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) I think there should be a 10 yard penalty assessed against any receiver that looks at a ref, raises his arms and verbally complains. It happens on every incomplete pass play. Ridiculous. Just play the damn game. Let the coaches complain if the situation dictates it. Edited January 16, 2018 by RobH063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I think there should be a 10 yard penalty assessed against any receiver that looks at a ref, raises his arms and verbally complains. It happens on every incomplete pass play. Ridiculous. Just play the damn game. Let the coaches complain if the situation dictates it. Well....Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin are All Pros at not selling the missed call...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 There are lots of rules in the NFL that need changing, but I don't think OPI is one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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