oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: This is the truth. But whatever let's do whatever we can to take away from a team that destroyed us, made it further in the playoffs and lost on a fluke play to point out some conceived positive. The whole basis of the thread is just whacked in my opinion The basis , since I started it, is that the guy lost the game for his team because of a fundamentally terrible attempt at a tackle. And that out DBs did well overall. i am not taking away anything from them. They had a great year, beat the tar out of us. But that attempt at a tackle was pitiful and it's something iur DBs did pretty well overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not about early. About where they can TGT the WRs. DBs are moving their aimpoint lower because of the head shot flags Nothing wrong with going low but just need to stay in control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not about early. About where they can TGT the WRs. DBs are moving their aimpoint lower because of the head shot flags the refs had nothing to do with this guys brainfart. neither did the rulebook. These guys were mugging the WRs all night. You think this guy went to the sideline and thumbed through the rulebook before that play and laid off? Edited January 15, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The Fix was in: You guys be acting like he don't know what he be doing! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I don't think you saw the play based on your comments. He lowered his head to the point where he could not have even seen the guy he was trying to hit. He missed him by a mile. I saw the play. It was your typical DB going for a big hit going at the normal hip area. Didnt see the ball high or diggs jump 3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: Nothing wrong with going low but just need to stay in control True. Its a bad out of control play. But was just explaining why you see the diving more. Wish i would see more Rugby tackles (lead with chest) best way to protect your own head Edited January 15, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: I saw the play. It was your typical DB going for a big hit going at the normal hip area. Didnt see the ball high or diggs jump He didn't see it because his head was so far down he couldn't see anything. Fundamental football: See what you hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 It wasn't a missed tackle. He got there too early and had to duck to avoid a PI penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Saints lose in the last play because a DB lowers his head and throws a shoulder instead of actually tackling a guy. One thing I liked about our D: the DBs played good fundamental football. Wrapped up on guys. I don’t think so - he has been making good tackles throughout the game. Looked like he realised he was early and and was trying to avoid him to prevent the DPI. This is why you make DPI a spot foul. If it was only 15 yards they go for the interference every time. I am sure during the time-out the coaches stressed no PI and just tackle them in bounds. The ball hung and he got there early - could not have PI - so ducked and in a terribly unlucky play took out his only other defender. I think it was a bad play and be bad luck, but that was not him trying to hit the WR like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, MichFan said: It wasn't a missed tackle. He got there too early and had to duck to avoid a PI penalty. Then stop and make the tackle, don't you think.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: the refs had nothing to do with this guys brainfart. neither did the rulebook. These guys were mugging the WRs all night. You think this guy went to the sideline and thumbed through the rulebook before that play and laid off? No but do you think these guys havent trained to lower their aimpoints from the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: No but do you think these guys havent trained to lower their aimpoints from the past? Clearly they have not. Still tons of headshot every week. How can you claim otherwise?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I think he just lost where the ball was and was worried about pass interference so he panicked and missed completely. That's a good football player. Sucks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: I don’t think so - he has been making good tackles throughout the game. Looked like he realised he was early and and was trying to avoid him to prevent the DPI. This is why you make DPI a spot foul. If it was only 15 yards they go for the interference every time. I am sure during the time-out the coaches stressed no PI and just tackle them in bounds. The ball hung and he got there early - could not have PI - so ducked and in a terribly unlucky play took out his only other defender. I think it was a bad play and be bad luck, but that was not him trying to hit the WR like that. I don't agree. He just lowered his head to the point he. Couldn't see the guy and five at him. Missed by a mile. Would have been better to slow up wait and hold the guy up right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Then stop and make the tackle, don't you think.? He is running full speed - I don’t think he could just stop. He realized how early he was and did not want a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Rochesterfan said: He is running full speed - I don’t think he could just stop. He realized how early he was and did not want a penalty. I'll have to rewatch and see how fast he was going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No but do you think these guys havent trained to lower their aimpoints from the past? Yes, but for the opposing players, not their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Just watched the play. Holy crap, was the safety (who inexplicably ducked like he was trying to dodge a bullet on the streets of New Orleans or something) trying to go for the INT there? Talk about a brain fart... I think he was expecting the receiver to head out of bounds and that was his attempt at a tackle. Problem was he got there just a bit early and the receiver saw daylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) The same defender did the same thing in the Patriots game earlier this year. This is a Saints problem. Edited January 15, 2018 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Certainty of the tackle beats intensity of the tackle, especially in that situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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