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Explains the housecleaning. This looks like it might be a trend ... Chicago just hired Mark Helfrich. Perhaps Carroll hires Matt Canada?

 

 

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Arizona should bring in Tyrod and do the same thing.  With that defense and David Johnson, they’d be really exciting to watch.

 

And good for Carroll thinking outside the box - kinda the opposite of McD hiring Dennison to fit a traditional timing offense to Tyrod...

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2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Arizona should bring in Tyrod and do the same thing.  With that defense and David Johnson, they’d be really exciting to watch.

 

And good for Carroll thinking outside the box - kinda the opposite of McD hiring Dennison to fit a traditional timing offense to Tyrod...

Rumours are Arizona is going to go after Keenum. Because of the Pat Shurmer connection .

 

But ya I hear your point and that would definitely be TTS best chance for success 

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8 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Rumours are Arizona is going to go after Keenum. Because of the Pat Shurmer connection .

 

But ya I hear your point and that would definitely be TTS best chance for success 

 

....some speculation called it a "package deal"......if so and with Stanton a UFA, would you consider him as your vet presence?.......he had a 2 year, $6.5 mil deal with $4.5 mil guaranteed.......coming off an ACL though..............

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

So "the next level" is...college level?

 

It kind of is.  The NFL probably needs to move away from complex systems that rely on veteran QBs and depth along the offense.  College has adapted to an easier system that features athletic QBs and can accommodate constant roster cycling.

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

So "the next level" is...college level?

When you can't find QB's who can successfully play at a pro level maybe you're best to find those who can at a college level and adapt

 

 

 

 

 

 

And !@#$ Matt Canada.  I want matt Murica

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I used to be completely against Air Raid QB’s because the style didn’t adapt the NFL at all and only successful in college. But looks like the NFL is adapting to the college game on offense and spread and Air Raid guys might start having an easier transition.

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Don't most college systems rely on the imbalance of talent between teams? One would think there is a good reason that the Oregon offense didn't work in the NFL.

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I used to be completely against Air Raid QB’s because the style didn’t adapt the NFL at all and only successful in college. But looks like the NFL is adapting to the college game on offense and spread and Air Raid guys might start having an easier transition.

There are already spread concepts being utilized a lot. I see that only increasing. Nagy/Reid used a mix of WCO and spread in KC with some success. Nagy will utilize Helfrich to incorporate more spread, as Trubisky cane from a pro-style spread O at UNC. 

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Unless they are installing Wisconsin's offense, this is assinine.  Wilson excelled in the Badgers pro-style offense.

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1 minute ago, flmike said:

Don't most college systems rely on the imbalance of talent between teams? One would think there is a good reason that the Oregon offense didn't work in the NFL.

 

No I don’t think that’s right.  Plus, Kelly’s offense did work in Philly...

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

There are already spread concept being utilized a ton. Nagy/Reid used a mix of WCO and spread in KC with some success. Nagy will utilize Helfrich to incorporate more spread, as Trubisky cane from a pro-style spread O at UNC. 

 

....got to see the Mayfield kid for the first time in the bowl game....do you think his style fits what McD/Beane want to do offensively?...............

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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....got to see the Mayfield kid for the first time in the bowl game....do you think his style fits what McD/Beane want to do offensively?...............

I don’t know what they want to do offensively other than score points, lol. McD is a defensive guy and Beane has only continued to say he wants a QB who can succeed from the pocket. Mayfield is an ideal fit for a WCO with spread concepts, which is what Andy Reid runs. If McD wants to replicate that with, say, Alex Smith as a bridge, Mayfield would be a fit as the rookie.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t know what they want to do offensively other than score points, lol. McD is a defensive guy and Beane has only continued to say he wants a QB who can succeed from the pocket. Mayfield is an ideal fit for a WCO with spread concepts, which is what Andy Reid runs. If McD wants to replicate that with, say, Alex Smith as a bridge, Mayfield would be a fit as the rookie.

 

...thanks for the assessment.....

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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

There are already spread concepts being utilized a lot. I see that only increasing. Nagy/Reid used a mix of WCO and spread in KC with some success. Nagy will utilize Helfrich to incorporate more spread, as Trubisky cane from a pro-style spread O at UNC. 

 

Thats what Gailey brought to us isn’t it?

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5 minutes ago, simool said:

Unless they are installing Wisconsin's offense, this is assinine.  Wilson excelled in the Badgers pro-style offense.

I think Defelippo is being rumored as the favorite in Seattle. 

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I've been saying this for a long time, a college system is the best way to utilize a mobile QB that looks to run more than pass.  Look at Watson, used a college system this year and he was extremely successful.  It will be interesting to see if the league moves more that direction.  

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12 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

When you can't find QB's who can successfully play at a pro level maybe you're best to find those who can at a college level and adapt

 

 

 

 

 

 

And !@#$ Matt Canada.  I want matt Murica

 

Wilson has been successful playing at a pro level....

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Thats what Gailey brought to us isn’t it?

He can almost run a true College spread, but yes he did with Fitz 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

I've been saying this for a long time, a college system is the best way to utilize a mobile QB that looks to run more than pass.  Look at Watson, used a college system this year and he was extremely successful.  It will be interesting to see if the league moves more that direction.  

 

 

...probably will have to as that is the product coming out of collegiate ranks.....more versatile to watch and fills college stadiums......boosters love that...........

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Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...probably will have to as that is the product coming out of collegiate ranks.....more versatile to watch and fills college stadiums......boosters love that...........

The league keeps moving to faster and faster players at every position.  Even the fat guys need to be reasonably fast now or they just don't fit.

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27 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Rumours are Arizona is going to go after Keenum. Because of the Pat Shurmer connection .

 

But ya I hear your point and that would definitely be TTS best chance for success 

Numerous articles 

but in today’s news cycle everyone borrows a story to post citing the original. 

15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I used to be completely against Air Raid QB’s because the style didn’t adapt the NFL at all and only successful in college. But looks like the NFL is adapting to the college game on offense and spread and Air Raid guys might start having an easier transition.

And that fad will be as successful as the wild cat.  Dead in 2 or 3 seasons. 

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A lot of people are not understanding what was meant by college system.  They are not talking spread/air raid type of thing. It's about having the QB run more. It's so dumb and a recipe for disaster. QBs will get destroyed and hurt in the NFL. Different animal. 

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I used to really get involved in these serious conversations about this when Tebow played. I believe a full blown college offense (spread or even option) CAN work in the NFL for a period of time. But the situation has to be perfect. 

At that time I was more talking about it working with Tebow specifically. And I meant it for a team with trouble selling tickets and generating interest. If you build up your defense so that you aren’t constantly playing catch up and you get 2 excellent RBs and at least 1 good FB, find the best blocking WRs and TEs you can find. Get a road grader offensive line, you could probably beat teams. I know nfl defenses are faster then college defenses, but stoping that style of power option is not about speed. You also would have the ability to drop in 5-8 passes a game to keep teams honest. I would love to see a team without a lot going for them at the Qb position, go all in and try it once. If you had no franchise qb and needed to generate some points in another way, it would be a good idea. Gutsy, but good.

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