Bing Bong Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: Too many fans are looking to simply get a monkey off their backs, it could severely hamper the future. It's shortsighted. "severely" is quite the overstatement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: Too many fans are looking to simply get a monkey off their backs, it could severely hamper the future. It's shortsighted. Making progress will hamper the future- that could be your life's motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: ridiculous The Process was never about tanking, like the Sabres. It was about building a team culture of accountability and sell-lessness. That's being accomplished whether they make the playoffs or not. And in the long run, having meaningful games in December for the rookies like White, Dawkins, Milano and Jones may be of greater value than 2-3 earlier slots in the April lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 You’re right, look at the Patriots, they win every year and look where it got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 we got a stud few players in last years draft. if the bills can do that again and sign a nice couple of free agents along with getting a qb somehow we're on the way to success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Sadly, this season will be known more for the disaster it is 3-4 years down the road. The increasing number of excellent college players is slipping dramatically with each meaningless win in a Draft year where we’ve garnered so many high pics at such a great cost. ‘The Process’ is pure Fools Gold. We simply aren’t talented enough to be considered contending, and now we likely won’t be for a few more years either. QB, DE, DL, OL, RB & WR need upgrades and more than a few players played their last Home Game yesterday. Our wins this year were all unnecessarily close and gifted with multiple T/O’s and ridiculously long FG’s. Our losses? No T/Os and blown out of stadiums. Even if we somehow receive a holiday miracle to break the 17 year streak for one more hour, we’re in worse shape talent wise than we were before ‘the Process’ started shredding the roster. I’ll go on record as saying we won’t make the playoffs and the result of this tease will negatively impact the team for years to come. Blashemy. What is the average number pick of the top 10 NFL QBs ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 What they’re trying to say is, “winning is for losers.” No doubt the same folks who are lamenting the wins are those who would call for McDermott to be fired if they lost 10+ games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, T-Bomb said: So the guy is trolling because what he says makes KoolAid drinkers/homers butthurt? Uhm, no. Even if we have a miracle one and done drought ending season, it's not worth the quality of talent we are watching slip away IMO. We will not be getting a franchise QB in the 2018 draft, that is bad news for the future of the franchise. So many Bills fans are so clueless.... Seems like he is trolling dims who think winning is bad by being a caricature of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, klos63 said: I find nothing meaningless about a playoff berth. I don't believe he ever played a sport in his life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Seems like he is trolling dims who think winning is bad by being a caricature of them... Well everyone knows NFC wins are bad.. Stupid tiebreaker rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, horned dogs said: I don't believe he ever played a sport in his life. And no sport you have ever played has anything to do with the Buffalo Bills or the NFL, I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I disagree. We see what talented yet undisciplined and lacking in work ethic contributed to the team in years past. This year is about building a foundation for the future. You dont build a foundation by showing your team its ok to lose. That plants a seed of bad habit; something that hes worked so hard to get rid of. We might not win another game, but we shouldnt lose on purpose; thats unprofessional, lazy, and would destroy the foundation of this team whos searching for an identity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Why cant making the playoffs benefit the Bills? Free agents may see the change in culture, new ownership, new front office and be interested as a potential spot to sign. I am sure over the years a guy or two said to his agent I don't want to sign with them they haven't made the postseason since 1999. Also Aaron Rodgers was picked 24th. We don't have a clue on how the draft will play out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 With all due respect to the OP's post, I am comfortable with the process. Completely comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochester rob Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) While it is true that the college player pool is getting less talented than in years past, it is by no means totally defunct of some fine players. There exists on this forum a number of people who will tell you that there are franchise quarterbacks,but only at the very top of the draft. I am sure there are team personnel guys who would like to know who these guaranteed franchise men are. It seems every year that the can't miss guys-do. Part of the process is to get those that will work in whatever system is being preached. I do not agree with all this front office has done and doubt I ever will agree with everything. . As long as we have a winning team I will enjoy it for that particular season. Although I don't post much and joined this forum under different name before the current 2001, I remember it as being much better than a place to call out morons and idiots. Back in the days of Bob Lamb and 89 (Cindy) and many others ,we could express points and discuss without all the look at me- I am the best poster -I know more than anyone else attitudes. Sadly I miss those days. As long as I am a bills fan I refuse to give up that hope that someday we will get back to being better than just good. I got through several good times in the sixties and a bunch more in the nineties. Here is to the future. Go bills and yes trust the process (for now) Edited December 19, 2017 by rochester rob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Bangarang said: You don’t need top picks to find talented players See: White, Tre’Davious This is exactly right. See NE and since 2001 the team has had only one 9-7 season while missing the playoffs only once in all that time! While you may not get that super elite player like Bruce Smith right away because you don't have a top 5 pick in the draft. You can still find the Freddy Jacksons as a walk-on or a Kyle Williams later in the draft. Judging by the first few picks under McD I'm not overly worried about finding the talent as I am about this teams scout finding that franchise QB who can lead the team to a SB. I trust McD to get it right. Now to beat New England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Yeah I really hate this winning record The process sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Yeah I really hate this winning record The process sucks and who wants to make the playoffs? It will only ruin our draft spot.....and isn't that more important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, rochester rob said: While it is true that the college player pool is getting less talented than in years past, it is by no means totally defunct of some fine players. There exists on this forum a number of people who will tell you that there are franchise quarterbacks,but only at the very top of the draft. I am sure there are team personnel guys who would like to know who these guaranteed franchise men are. It seems every year that the can't miss guys-do. Part of the process is to get those that will work in whatever system is being preached. I do not agree with all this front office has done and doubt I ever will agree with everything. . As long as we have a winning team I will enjoy it for that particular season. Although I don't post much and joined this forum under different name before the current 2001, I remember it as being much better than a place to call out morons and idiots. Back in the days of Bob Lamb and 89 (Cindy) and many others ,we could express points and discuss without all the look at me- I am the best poster -I know more than anyone else attitudes. Sadly I miss those days. As long as I am a bills fan I refuse to give up that hope that someday we will get back to being better than just good. I got through several good times in the sixties and a bunch more in the nineties. Here is to the future. Go bills and yes trust the process (for now) I'm glad you don't post much because your grammar and punctuation are absolutely brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, BillsVet said: Lighten up Francis. Nice job of completely missing the point. I never said McBeane won't completely avoid UFA. They're just not going to be huge spenders there and will likely save cap room for existing players and low to moderate UFA types like Hyde, Poyer, and Haushka. It would not completely shock me to see them sign 2-3 guys in the range of those deals next March. They'll have some cap room and there's really no one from the 2013, 2014, and 2015 drafts to re-sign. it doesn't take away that this roster is lacking in play-makers and you're not going to find those types with low to moderate UFAs and rookies. This is a roster getting older (Incognito, Wood, McCoy, Alexander, and Kyle) that still is without a definite starting QB in 2018. Teams aren't winning with "the process." Because, no matter how hard the coaching staff works to prepare for game-day, it's talent that wins out. And Buffalo's is aging, quite pedestrian, and "the process" isn't going to surprise anyone next year. That is, unless McBeane find their QB of the future this April and add some pieces to the defensive front 7, the right side of the OL, and at WR. Whoa...you quoted an old Bill Murray line. You must know what you're talking about. Ironic that you blast me for missing points when you missed mine. I'm well aware of what the roster looks like. Yup, old. No playmakers. Gotcha. Tons of holes to fill. Yup. What I'm saying is you have no clue what is going to happen in FA. Neither do I. They could dink and dunk some less expensive guys....or they could go all in for a Cousins, some oline help or even some front 7 help. Could be a mix of all. As far as teams not winning with the process...no team wins by accident in this league (except appearently the Bills). Not every team has a name for it, but teams that sustain winning have a plan, a procedure a...ummmm...."process" to how they accomplish it. And I agree that team's win with talent, however talent isn't all encompassing. Because someone has skill doesn't mean they fit. Yea, Hauschka, Poyer, Hyde were all considered "mid to lower tier" guys. But I'd be fine with them signing players that fit the system, play smart and can flourish in our systems rather than fork out the big bucks because of what it says on the back of someone's jersey. Give me an EJ Gaines (when healthy) over 20 Richard Sherman's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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