26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Sammy isn't the #1 receiver in LA, it is painfully obvious to anyone without an agenda. It's painfully obvious that you don't watch the Rams play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's painfully obvious that you don't watch the Rams play. I watch the Rams every week. He hasn't caught a touchdown all season against a legit number one corner. Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: haha I love shady. so NOT a punk like watkins. Na, he doesn't complain about touches, just smashes champagne bottles over peoples heads at nightclubs. Definitely not a punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Commonsense said: I watch the Rams every week. He hasn't caught a touchdown all season against a legit number one corner. Explain. If you have then you have certainly seen him beat #1 CBs to be only to be missed by Goff or have the ball thrown elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: W/O the benefit of a full offseason of OTAs, minicamps, and TC to fully immerse himself in the system. The Rams are happy with his production as well as the opportunities he opens up for Woods, Kupp and others by design and matchup concepts. Yep. All #1 WR on teams are just decoys. When the Rams traded for him, they expected him to be 94th in the NFl in catches....that’s what they wanted LOL. So the excuse was before McVay doesn’t focus on targeting just 1 guy but then you saw that while with the Skins, 3 guys were consistently targeted a lot. Now it’s he didn’t have camp with them the Rams. Well neither did OBJ as a rookie. He didn’t average only 5 targets a game. Uh oh....someone disagrees with you. Same something snarky again like you always do when someone has a conflicting point to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Yep. All #1 WR on teams are just decoys. When the Rams traded for him, they expected him to be 94th in the NFl in catches....that’s what they wanted LOL. So the excuse was before McVay doesn’t focus on targeting just 1 guy but then you saw that while with the Skins, 3 guys were consistently targeted a lot. Now it’s he didn’t have camp with them the Rams. Well neither did OBJ as a rookie. He didn’t average only 5 targets a game. Uh oh....someone disagrees with you. Same something snarky again like you always do when someone has a conflicting point to yours. 7 TDs to lead the team. Decoy? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Sammy isn't the #1 receiver in LA, it is painfully obvious to anyone without an agenda. Tell that to the defenses covering him. The Rams have played some of the league's best CB's and they all seem to wind up lined across from Watkins. Meanwhile McVay is circumventing the nature of the rule regarding QB communication by calling the play at the LOS thru the QB's headset........picking out the guy with the best matchup and directing Goff to throw it to him. Watkins is excellent but usually there are better matchups than any guy lining up across from Richard Sherman or Jalen Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 7 TDs to lead the team. Decoy? Sure. You’re the one making the point he’s the one drawing the attention away from Woods and Kupp!! That’s your argument! That’s why you’re saying he he’s not targeted much! Edited December 15, 2017 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You’re the one making the point he’s the one drawing the attention away from Woods and Kupp!! That’s you’re argument! That’s why you’re saying he he’s not targeted much! On certain routes of course. That's what you do as a playcaller to take advantage of matchups when you have the edge. It's smart of McVay to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 How do you suppose his agent views this season? Short of being injured again this is about as bad as it could go. He either does a prove deal or finds Allen Hurns type of money in an undesirable place like say...Chicago. Lack of production, early season admission of half assing it, past history with Bills, injuries. He won't be signing a top dollar deal like he thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yep. All #1 WR on teams are just decoys. When the Rams traded for him, they expected him to be 94th in the NFl in catches....that’s what they wanted LOL. So the excuse was before McVay doesn’t focus on targeting just 1 guy but then you saw that while with the Skins, 3 guys were consistently targeted a lot. Now it’s he didn’t have camp with them the Rams. Well neither did OBJ as a rookie. He didn’t average only 5 targets a game. Uh oh....someone disagrees with you. Same something snarky again like you always do when someone has a conflicting point to yours. I tend to doubt that he was calling the plays at the LOS thru the headset with Kirk Cousins in Washington. I think this is something he kept in his pocket for his first HC job and if you watched the Rams play this year it's pretty stark how Goff always seems to find the wide open man in an instant. Being able to do this might not yield similar results from a pedestrian game planner/play caller but for McVay it's been incredibly effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Watkins is most likely looking at a one-year prove it deal for $7M-$9M.......which was his range if the Bills had 5th year optioned him. Huh???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: On certain routes of course. That's what you do as a playcaller to take advantage of matchups when you have the edge. It's smart of McVay to do that. Certain routes? Seems like the majority of the routes since he’s 4th on the team in targets. I guess McVay wasn’t smart enough to do it priors years because he was targeted other receivers more with the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Tell that to the defenses covering him. The Rams have played some of the league's best CB's and they all seem to wind up lined across from Watkins. Meanwhile McVay is circumventing the nature of the rule regarding QB communication by calling the play at the LOS thru the QB's headset........picking out the guy with the best matchup and directing Goff to throw it to him. Watkins is excellent but usually there are better matchups than any guy lining up across from Richard Sherman or Jalen Ramsey. Weird how Sammy is the only #1 WR that McVay has specifically avoided targeting in his offenses. So what you're saying is he trusted Pierre Garcon against #1 receivers more than he trusts Sammy? Sounds about right actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cynical said: Could be? I think the training staff issue has been a problem in Buffalo for years now. Ever since the Bills lost that trainer from the 90's (I cannot remember his name at the moment), the players on this team have been constantly nicked up, injured, weight issues, etc. McD changed over the training staff https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/03/sean_mcdermott_fires_4_members_of_buffalo_bills_football_operations_staff_report.amp Edited December 15, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I tend to doubt that he was calling the plays at the LOS thru the headset with Kirk Cousins in Washington. I think this is something he kept in his pocket for his first HC job and if you watched the Rams play this year it's pretty stark how Goff always seems to find the wide open man in an instant. Being able to do this might not yield similar results from a pedestrian game planner/play caller but for McVay it's been incredibly effective. Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Huh???? It was $13.26 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Certain routes? Seems like the majority of the routes since he’s 4th on the team in targets. I guess McVay wasn’t smart enough to do it priors years because he was targeted other receivers more with the Skins. McVay has said he uses Watkins in the same way he did DeSean Jackson. He creates opportunities for others on the team. Is this really that difficult to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Quite a revisionist take......McCoy was a punk for sure and took much longer to mature than Watkins. His stubborn, self-serving manner cost him his job on his beloved hometown team. Gotta' be devastating for McCoy to see the Eagles coasting into the playoffs with a potential #1 seed/homefield advantage while he wallows in exile. Sammy got the reverse........exiled to sunny SoCal and a trip to the playoffs. Talk about revisionist history! What "cost him his job on his beloved hometown team" was a joke of a HC who is now out of the NFL and will never coach in the NFL again. Since joining the Bills, he's only rushed for more yards than any other RB in the NFL. Oh and don't worry about Shady. He's made the playoffs before and probably wishes they had a decent QB more than anything else. And great, another player who "matures" after leaving Buffalo. Like I said before... Edited December 15, 2017 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I'll say it again: some day, some how, the Bills need a player development program. The good franchises have them. McD's program seems to be, "Let's bring in players who don't need any development." That ain't sustainable. Put it another way: the coaches who are going to have long careers are the ones who can get production and buy-in out of the Watkins and Dareus types. It's EASY to get production out of Tre' White, any coach could do it. Rex could do it. That doesn't distinguish a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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