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In terms of the Bills playoffs, yeah, a Chiefs victory is probably the best thing for the Bills. Given that there is likely to be a log jam at 9-7 the Bills head to head win vs. the Chiefs won't come into play. It only matters if they end up the only two teams tied for a WC spot (it would also come into play if ALL the tied teams have played each other but that won't be the case.) The Chiefs win any tiebreaker in which more than two teams are tied because of their vastly superior strength of victory (due to their wins vs. the Pats and Eagles.)

 

The same thing, but opposite, applies to the Chargers. Sure, if the Bills end up tied with the Chargers and nobody else, the head to head comes into play. But if it's more than just those two it looks like the Bills would likely win the tiebreaker due to either better conference record or strength of victory. 

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Assuming the Ravens win out with their easy schedule:

 

Looks like if the Chargers lose to KC and then win out AND the Titans beat either the Rams or 49ers but lose to the Jags we would win the three-way tie there. 

 

In that same situation except the Chargers beat KC, KC has the tiebreaker in the three-way tie there. If the Titans lose out, we would obviously have the head-to-head over the Chiefs.

 

Hard to say which scenario is preferable right now, but we are looking for either Tennessee to lose and the Chiefs win or Tennessee wins and the Chiefs lose. Otherwise we'll need the Ravens to lose to either the Colts or Bengals to kick the three-way tiebreakers back in. However in no practical scenario can the Titans beat the Jags. Don't think they can anyhow.

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The confusion over this game is understandable.

 

If you look at tie-breaking rules with these 2 teams and ONLY the Bills it works out like this at 9-7.

 

If tied with LAC we would lose out because of Head to Head (LAC beat us).

If tied with KC we would win because of Head to Head (Bills beat KC).

 

The odds of us and either KC or LAC are slim because of the Titans/Ravens and possibly Raiders being 9-7.

 

That being said, the tie-breaking rules are different with 3 or more teams tied at 9-7.

 

The possible scenarios of win-loss-tie with 3 games remaining and multi teams involved are huge.

 

The MUST is a Bills win. 

5 minutes ago, MDH said:

In terms of the Bills playoffs, yeah, a Chiefs victory is probably the best thing for the Bills. Given that there is likely to be a log jam at 9-7 the Bills head to head win vs. the Chiefs won't come into play. It only matters if they end up the only two teams tied for a WC spot (it would also come into play if ALL the tied teams have played each other but that won't be the case.) The Chiefs win any tiebreaker in which more than two teams are tied because of their vastly superior strength of victory (due to their wins vs. the Pats and Eagles.)

 

The same thing, but opposite, applies to the Chargers. Sure, if the Bills end up tied with the Chargers and nobody else, the head to head comes into play. But if it's more than just those two it looks like the Bills would likely win the tiebreaker due to either better conference record or strength of victory. 

 

Yes.........................but (LOL).

IF the log jam is between BUF, KC, TENN or BALT and there are 2 Wildcard spots open.

KC probably gets the 1st slot.

The remaining slot could favor the Bills.

 

Like I said there are a lot of scenarios!

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22 minutes ago, Original Byrd Man said:

The best scenario for the Bills is for SD to win the division as they have tie breakers over the Chiefs and Raiders.  Also every game the Chiefs lose improves the Bills pick from them.

Exactly....we are doing no better than 9-7. We need LAC to win the west. Not KC!

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Talk to me next week when there is a completely different scenario.

You're certainly welcome to respond again next week.  But that doesn't change the fact that the Bills would like the Chargers to beat KC....THIS WEEK.

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I don't think we'll really know who we should've been rooting for until everyone's played this weekend.

 

It's such a messed up situation every way I look at it. Titans should take care of the 49ers but if they don't and lose out we may be facing only one other team. Then you got the Chiefs against the Dolphins next week which is a tossup. If the Ravens drop one it throws another wrench into things.

 

I guess at this point I'm gonna root for the Bills and hope for the best. That's the one game that really matters.

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Would like to see LA win the west.  But since all the pundits like the Chargers on Sat night I have a feeling KC will show up in a big way and get back on track.  

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There are few situations where the Chiefs winning favors us, there are several situations where the Chiefs losing favor us

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We want the LA chargers to win the west due to tiebreakers and a better draft pick. It's a two for one deal. 

 

Plus, I cannot wait to watch the Saturday Wild Card game to see those 27,000 screaming fans in LA. 

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5 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

We want the LA chargers to win the west due to tiebreakers and a better draft pick. It's a two for one deal. 

 

Plus, I cannot wait to watch the Saturday Wild Card game to see those 27,000 screaming fans in LA. 

 

and playing against the Bills?

 

Who should the Bills start at QB?

Peterman redemption?

LOL

 

My god, this board would implode!

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Root for the Chargers. Our hold on a WC spot currently is due to no common opponents being factored yet. We hold the first tie breaker vs. KC and  not against the Chargers. We need the Chargers to win their division as a result.

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So I assume all the people who think it's an open and shut case that we want/need the Chargers to win think that the Titans are going to drop all their remaining games? Or that the Ravens will lose one of their last three vs. three of the worst teams in the NFL?

 

Because that's what it will take for the Bills to win a tie breaker vs. the Chiefs. Only if the Bills are tied with only the Chiefs does the head to head tie breaker come into effect. If the Bills are tied with the Chiefs and any other team(s) the Chiefs get the nod into the playoffs.

 

It's - obviously - impossible to know how everything will shake out but IMO it's much more likely the Ravens win out and the Titans win one of their remaining games.

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3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

and playing against the Bills?

 

Who should the Bills start at QB?

Peterman redemption?

LOL

 

My god, this board would implode!

 

Implosion is good for it - just like tanking for a draft pick. :rolleyes:

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I just picked week 15 in the ESPN playoff machine, and if Pittsburgh beats NE and the Jags win, Jags are the #2 and NE drops to #3.

 

That is great for us, because it keeps Jacksonville playing in week 17 in Tennessee to keep a bye and we need the Titans to keep losing. Plus it's bad for NE, which is always good.

 

How great would it be if Gronk's cheap shot cost them a 1st round bye?

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33 minutes ago, MDH said:

So I assume all the people who think it's an open and shut case that we want/need the Chargers to win think that the Titans are going to drop all their remaining games? Or that the Ravens will lose one of their last three vs. three of the worst teams in the NFL?

 

Because that's what it will take for the Bills to win a tie breaker vs. the Chiefs. Only if the Bills are tied with only the Chiefs does the head to head tie breaker come into effect. If the Bills are tied with the Chiefs and any other team(s) the Chiefs get the nod into the playoffs.

 

It's - obviously - impossible to know how everything will shake out but IMO it's much more likely the Ravens win out and the Titans win one of their remaining games.

How do you know the Chiefs will win the common opponent tie breaker at this point when no common opponent factors have been weighed yet?  

 

I appreciate you larger point, though.

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2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

How do you know the Chiefs will win the common opponent tie breaker at this point when no common opponent factors have been weighed yet?  

 

I appreciate you larger point, though.

 

You can see their schedule or use playoff machine. We lose most three way tie scenarios with the Chiefs. 

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5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You're certainly welcome to respond again next week.  But that doesn't change the fact that the Bills would like the Chargers to beat KC....THIS WEEK.

OK. I have a caps lock button too.

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