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Air it out Fitzy

Uncatchable pass %. Dennison's fault too ?

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2 hours ago, Air it out Fitzy said:

 

He would be better with a qb that can make "all the throws" ? 

 

Dc's would worry about passing yards which would help the run game too. 

 

System worked with Texans and Broncos 🤔

 

 

 

He was never the play caller for those teams there bud. Always a sidekick. This is his first year in his career where he is "the guy" running the show on offence. Stop trying to defend him because of our bad QB play. He is awful as well

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When nearly half of your throws are deemed uncatchable you are not operating at a proffesional level.

 

Doesn't take a deep drive through stats to confirm that. Just a peek on Sunday and you can see it firsthand.

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2 hours ago, Air it out Fitzy said:

 

He would be better with a qb that can make "all the throws" ? 

 

Dc's would worry about passing yards which would help the run game too. 

 

System worked with Texans and Broncos 🤔

 

 

 

I would have rather maintained the Offense from last year which was very effective, but Dennison is obviously not one of those coaches that can tailor a scheme to the talent he has.  Most changes require time to evolve after evaluation.  This system has worked in the past but the difference is Dennison was not calling the plays.  Also this Oline was assembled for a power scheme and Dennison comes in and changes schemes to a finesse scheme. Maybe he can evolve as a play caller but he often has me asking what were you thinking.

I'm hoping at the end of the season Dennison is gone.

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YEs we get it the QB sucks....ok got the memo.....but giving dennision a pass is idiotic.....his scheme does not fit the players not just the QB......anyone just plainly watching the games can see this

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2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

On the bright side, Tyrod's uncatchable passes are so far away from his own players and the defenders who cover them....so his INT rate is very low.  Score!!!

That’s a bingo.

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1 hour ago, joesixpack said:

 

Problem with your theory:

 

2016 we had the 30th ranked pass offense.

2015 we had the 28th.

 

This is with two other OCs, and a full complement of the WR that people have been complaining about us not having.

 

So it's always been the coaches' fault?


Taylor's a nice guy, and a great wildcat QB. But he's a lousy QB otherwise.

 

 

Good post man,

 

Sad thing is many of his fanboys say he is a game manager that keeps the turnovers to a minimum and it is the running game and D that make Tyrod such a good QB. Tyrod is the reason McCoy is a great RB. SMH.

Sounds a lot like what a backup QB is suppose to do when the starter is out, hand off, throw low percentage throws and hope the D and Rb gets the win. A team can win some games with a backup playing but not enough for a full season to the playoffs, and big games? Forget about it.

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I've been critical against our receivers, and I'm not shifting blame from our coordinator and quarterback either, I just think all 3 components have been terrible, with obvious results.

 

Zay and O'Leary are the only receivers I'd hang my hat on that played this season. It really showed against the caliber cornerbacks the Patriots have, most routes looked impossible to throw at.

 

But it's also no secret that Tyrod is inaccurate, I just hope both facets can improve next year somehow. New QB, healthy KB, and sign some FA depth, save a high draft pick for insurance.

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Obviously an uncatchable pass isn't Dennison's fault.

 

What a stupidly veiled premise here. You're holding onto the notion that you need to prove to anyone that believes Taylor is a Franchise QB or even that he'll be in a Bills uniform much longer that he's not and that he won't.

 

No one believes that.

 

No one's believed that for weeks probably.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Dennison blows.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Does this statistic say 45.2% of all passes thrown are uncatchable?  If so, what are the better QB’s throwing?

 

59 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

A snippet on PFF, last years average rate was 12.6%

What a difference.     

 

Of course the Champions of Taylor will  blame the Rookie for not getting separation or running the wrong route.  

 

So,  let me ask      What does throwing a guy open mean?  Is this an anticipation thing?  

5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

What a stupidly veiled premise here. You're holding onto the notion that you need to prove to anyone that believes Taylor is a Franchise (1) QB or even that he'll be in a Bills uniform much longer that he's not and that he won't.

 

No one believes that.

 

No one's believed that for weeks probably. (2)

 

Which is it transplant? 

No one believed, or

No one believes any longer?  

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

so, are you saying that 

his inaccuracy is an advantage?  

Yes...absolutely. Lowest turnover rate in the NFL because even the CB's can't catch the ball.

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19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

What a difference.     

 

Of course the Champions of Taylor will  blame the Rookie for not getting separation or running the wrong route.  

 

So,  let me ask      What does throwing a guy open mean?  Is this an anticipation thing?  

No champion of Tyrod anymore. But those receivers didn't have a chance against the Pats corners, hellish matchup.

 

Throwing a guy open requires trust from Tyrod, and it's not there. He's too scared to throw, and too inaccurate I'd be nervous myself if he attempted to squeeze in passes. And I don't really think he's even tried those timing back shoulder throws but neither party is capable of making that play. I love that pass, Rodgers does it in his sleep.

 

I'd say Russell Wilson can't really throw a guy open either, he's got Jimmy Graham and barely knows how to use him. He would just force wildly high passes at Graham when he first got him. Wilson makes his living on extending plays with an otherwise pretty poor offense. Not comparing to Tyrod at all here, just saying that's how Wilson executes an offense.

 

I'd wager throwing a guy open is either a timing route, I can only think of like a back shoulder play (seriously those can't be defended in man they're automatic 20 yards for Rodgers), or just throwing to where only a bigger target can grab. But we say that buzz phrase like it's the penultimate trait in a quarterback.. when I'm sure any quarterback would tell you he'd rather just throw to an open receiver on his first or second read.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Dak Prescott is struggling this year.

Our terrible Rex Ryan defense last year shutout the Pats at home with Brissett.

Flacco has been terrible pretty much all year.

Brissett was playing with torn ligament in his finger too. He was placed on IR immediately after the game. That was kind of a joke of a victory.

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3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

No champion of Tyrod anymore. But those receivers didn't have a chance against the Pats corners, hellish matchup.

 

Throwing a guy open requires trust from Tyrod, and it's not there. He's too scared to throw, and too inaccurate I'd be nervous myself if he attempted to squeeze in passes. And I don't really think he's even tried those timing back shoulder throws but neither party is capable of making that play. I love that pass, Rodgers does it in his sleep.

 

I'd say Russell Wilson can't really throw a guy open either, he's got Jimmy Graham and barely knows how to use him. He would just force wildly high passes at Graham when he first got him. Wilson makes his living on extending plays with an otherwise pretty poor offense. Not comparing to Tyrod at all here, just saying that's how Wilson executes an offense.

 

I'd wager throwing a guy open is either a timing route, I can only think of like a back shoulder play (seriously those can't be defended in man they're automatic 20 yards for Rodgers), or just throwing to where only a bigger target can grab. But we say that buzz phrase like it's the penultimate trait in a quarterback.. when I'm sure any quarterback would tell you he'd rather just throw to an open receiver on his first or second read.

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3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Brissett was playing with torn ligament in his finger too. He was placed on IR immediately after the game. That was kind of a joke of a victory.

And the idiot started a fight with 2 or 3 Bills players pregame 

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7 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

No champion of Tyrod anymore. But those receivers didn't have a chance against the Pats corners, hellish matchup.

 

Throwing a guy open requires trust from Tyrod, and it's not there. He's too scared to throw, and too inaccurate I'd be nervous myself if he attempted to squeeze in passes. And I don't really think he's even tried those timing back shoulder throws but neither party is capable of making that play. I love that pass, Rodgers does it in his sleep.

 

I'd say Russell Wilson can't really throw a guy open either, he's got Jimmy Graham and barely knows how to use him. He would just force wildly high passes at Graham when he first got him. Wilson makes his living on extending plays with an otherwise pretty poor offense. Not comparing to Tyrod at all here, just saying that's how Wilson executes an offense.

 

I'd wager throwing a guy open is either a timing route, I can only think of like a back shoulder play (seriously those can't be defended in man they're automatic 20 yards for Rodgers), or just throwing to where only a bigger target can grab. But we say that buzz phrase like it's the penultimate trait in a quarterback.. when I'm sure any quarterback would tell you he'd rather just throw to an open receiver on his first or second read.

I'm done with Tyrod, although I like him and think he can succeed in certain situations (but not here). That said, I think it's fair to say that he's not the only problem with the Bills passing game. The receivers this year have been TERRIBLE. Even Jones, who has improved, NEVER gets separation on deeper throws. CBs are attached like glue to him on pretty much all such plays. And he's the best they have had this season. It's a truly terrible group of receivers. 

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33 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Obviously an uncatchable pass isn't Dennison's fault.

 

What a stupidly veiled premise here. You're holding onto the notion that you need to prove to anyone that believes Taylor is a Franchise QB or even that he'll be in a Bills uniform much longer that he's not and that he won't.

 

No one believes that.

 

No one's believed that for weeks probably.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Dennison blows.

 

🤥🤥🤥

 

Chill bro, we don't call your stupid posts stupid. 

 

Dont blame pff for your offseason of Taylor fluffing.  

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This metric kinds of speaks for itself. But even TT's catchable passes leave a lot to be desired most of the time. His ball placement is among the worst I've ever seen for a starting QB in this league. Completion percentage doesn't equal accuracy and TT is a prime example. 

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Just now, K-9 said:

This metric kinds of speaks for itself. But even TT's catchable passes leave a lot to be desired most of the time. His ball placement is among the worst I've ever seen for a starting QB in this league. Completion percentage doesn't equal accuracy and TT is a prime example. 

Exactly.

 

Yeah that 4 yard completion looks good on a stat sheet but a better placed ball would have been a 8+.

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31 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm done with Tyrod, although I like him and think he can succeed in certain situations (but not here). That said, I think it's fair to say that he's not the only problem with the Bills passing game. The receivers this year have been TERRIBLE. Even Jones, who has improved, NEVER gets separation on deeper throws. CBs are attached like glue to him on pretty much all such plays. And he's the best they have had this season. It's a truly terrible group of receivers. 

Oh certainly. Zay looks slow as dirt, gets open on his crazy exaggerated head/body fakes (actually works too I thought he looked silly at first) reminds me that's why he didn't have time to adjust for that fated Carolina ball.

 

I was so excited about Tyrod his first season, that deep ball was so good. Even with Sammy and Goodwin in he never quite hit or even attempted that deep ball nearly as much. Really does feel like he regressed. I'm done making excuses for him he's made his bed after this season. I just find it unfortunate that every year felt like his receivers got worse (Watkins missed more and more games), and then his running game disappears from him. All of that fell apart this year and unfortunately he can't do a better Russell Wilson impression.

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4 hours ago, Air it out Fitzy said:

Cant wait to overhaul this team in the draft.  

 

Rosen and Rudolph can fix this issue I hope.   

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LMAO at all this nonsense where it has to be one or the other...its possible they both aren't good, you understand that right?  TT is TT...we don't need to dive into that, besides you clearly already have your thoughts about him.

 

But who cares if you hate TT, the bottom line is that Dennison has been terrible.  I don't blame Dennison when TT makes a bad pass or takes a bad sack.  I blame Dennison when he takes a FRESH McCoy OFF the field all the time and on critical drives and plays to put in guys like Tolbert and Cadet.  I blame Dennison when he makes HIGHLY predictable and head scratching play calls like his LOVE affair with calling a draw play on any Down and Long.  I blame Dennison for dismantling the leagues top rushing attack and making it mediocre.  I blame Dennison for calling plays like we are protecting a lead but are really down and need to urgently score.  I could keep going, but you should get the point.

 

Dennison sucks.  Cant wait for this idiot to hit the pavement.  Don't want him running the show for the new shiny QB we are going to draft.  

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Which is it transplant? 

No one believed, or

No one believes any longer?  

 

Are you having reading comprehension problems again, Shady?

 

"No one believes that.

 

No one's believed that for weeks, probably."

 

 

really don't understand that?  There's no "which is that" in there because my statement doesn't contradict itself.

 

Or are you just gleefully trying to dig up all the folks you idiots have labelled as being in a cult so that you can insult them for their opinions?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

LMAO at all this nonsense where it has to be one or the other...its possible they both aren't good, you understand that right?  TT is TT...we don't need to dive into that, besides you clearly already have your thoughts about him.

 

But who cares if you hate TT, the bottom line is that Dennison has been terrible.  I don't blame Dennison when TT makes a bad pass or takes a bad sack.  I blame Dennison when he takes a FRESH McCoy OFF the field all the time and on critical drives and plays to put in guys like Tolbert and Cadet.  I blame Dennison when he makes HIGHLY predictable and head scratching play calls like his LOVE affair with calling a draw play on any Down and Long.  I blame Dennison for dismantling the leagues top rushing attack and making it mediocre.  I blame Dennison for calling plays like we are protecting a lead but are really down and need to urgently score.  I could keep going, but you should get the point.

 

Dennison sucks.  Cant wait for this idiot to hit the pavement.  Don't want him running the show for the new shiny QB we are going to draft.  

Yep, one bad part of the offense doesn't excuse everything else. Maybe McCoy, maybe Zay, maybe O'Leary are the only guys on the offense that can say they played alright for most of the season.

 

That Peterman fade to Zay on 4th and 1.. what in the **** kind of play call is that. If you told me before the snap what the play was, regardless of down I'd give that play 5% chance at best.

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1 hour ago, Air it out Fitzy said:

 

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Chill bro, we don't call your stupid posts stupid. 

 

Dont blame pff for your offseason of Taylor fluffing.  

 

First of all, what are those boxes at the top?  Whether it's a browser thing or an inside joke I'm not getting, they just look like boxes.

 

Second of all, you don't call posts of mine or really anyone who's ever said anything positive about Taylor stupid or several other negative things?  Seriously?  That's what you're going with?  So now on top of proving you have no integrity because you can't adhere to a bet YOU make yourself and then LOSE, you also prove to be a liar?

 

Third of all, why are you so obsessed with Taylor that you feel you have to talk about him so much?  :flirt:

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4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

First of all, what are those boxes at the top?  Whether it's a browser thing or an inside joke I'm not getting, they just look like boxes.

 

Second of all, you don't call posts of mine or really anyone who's ever said anything positive about Taylor stupid or several other negative things?  Seriously?  That's what you're going with?  So now on top of proving you have no integrity because you can't adhere to a bet YOU make yourself and then LOSE, you also prove to be a liar?

 

Third of all, why are you so obsessed with Taylor that you feel you have to talk about him so much?  :flirt:

I can never tell what ya'll 2 beef about I've seen it in other threads too.

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9 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Yep, one bad part of the offense doesn't excuse everything else. Maybe McCoy, maybe Zay, maybe O'Leary are the only guys on the offense that can say they played alright for most of the season.

 

That Peterman fade to Zay on 4th and 1.. what in the **** kind of play call is that. If you told me before the snap what the play was, regardless of down I'd give that play 5% chance at best.

 

Exactly.  Lets examine Dennison train of thought here.  Its 4th and goal at the 1 yard line on a must score a TD drive.  

 

Hmmmm...I have one of the shiftiest and best RB's in the NFL on a teams whose strength is running. I also have a big TE in a guy like Clay who is a great Redzone target.  But wait... I also have a 5th round rookie QB with a bad comp %, terrible under pressure, and lots of interceptions who could throw a fade to a fellow rookie WR who isn't very big that  both struggles running routes and catching passes that is matched up against a pretty darn good DB, not to mention is a former Bill with a chip on his shoulder playing on a Belichick coached defense.

 

Gee...I think I will go with this crap low percentage play with 2 struggling rookies.  Congrats Dennison, you are an idiot.

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