GETTOTHE50 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 its time to release all the players and just start completely fresh. Even Kyle and Eric need to go. Please just purge this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Tyrod has been playing behind that same line all year. Are you giving him a pass? The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. So your opinion is that a throw is inherently good? A completion is a completion no matter who the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Peterman still threw for more yards in one half than Taylor threw the entire game last week. Just sayin... Cool take, did you know that both QBs played a half this week. Wanna guess who threw for more yards and TDs? Wanna take a stab at who threw more ints? I'll hang up and listen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Peterman still threw for more yards in one half than Taylor threw the entire game last week. Just sayin... And he threw more INTs in one half then TT has all year.... Just say in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Thank you for the wonderful teachings example to all the people who say things like “turnovers don’t matter” and “total yards are the best way to rank a passing offense.” 59 yards passing = 5 int's what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I don't think anyone argued that it could not get worse than Taylor. That does not mean that Taylor is the answer. Taylor cannot carry an offense in any way. He can succeed at a mid-level, if surrounded by very good talent and supported by an exceptional defense - neither exist here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: And he threw more INTs in one half then TT has all year.... Just say in..... Or any qb since has in one half since 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The problem isn't the QB, it's the guy designing and calling the plays for the QB. You know what you have in TT, there's some good and some bad with him, some good advice to him would be to work to what he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 One of our QB is not the right guy...the other one is really really not the right guy......onto 2018.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: The problem isn't the QB, it's the guy designing and calling the plays for the QB. You know what you have in TT, there's some good and some bad with him, some good advice to him would be to work to what he does well. so check it down. got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, HappyDays said: What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes. That sounds an awful lot like something Shady said earlier in the year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes. If the Bills DON'T attempt to resolve the situation, it WILL be a terminal failure. Take that to the bank. Lead pipe stone cold lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 There's certainly no question now how bad the Bills OL is, makes one wonder what Tyrod would look like behind a good OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: If the Bills DON'T attempt to resolve the situation, it WILL be a terminal failure. Take that to the bank. Lead pipe stone cold lock. They should draft a QB in the 1st. I don’t think think anyone is against that right now. But after the last 3 weeks I don’t know how anyone could want us to lose out on a number of easy round picks. We have so many positions to rebuild. Like the entire front 7 for starters. 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: That sounds an awful lot like something Shady said earlier in the year... You see Richard Sherman’s tweet? I think he knows a little something about QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, HappyDays said: What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes. Let's not pretend Taylor is flawless just because Peterman had a historically bad first outing. Receivers are open for great quarterbacks even when it looks like they aren't. Peterman was finding guys to throw to for the most part - he just was getting annihilated in the process. In fact, maybe today really did have a silver lining: I never saw Taylor as aggressive with downfield throws in limited time than today. Like he had nothing to lose. (Except for his fumble). Maybe we'll see more aggressiveness from him as a result of the benching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Let's not pretend Taylor is flawless just because Peterman had a historically bad first outing. Receivers are open for great quarterbacks even when it looks like they aren't. Peterman was finding guys to throw to for the most part - he just was getting annihilated in the process. No one is pretending he is flawless. He is a decent starting QB but he needs a system built around him just like any QB. Deshaun Watson and Carson Wentz wouldn’t succeed in each other’s offenses. Didn’t we just fire Rex Ryan for trying to force his system on a defensive roster that wasn’t built for that? Why are we excusing Dennison coming in and designing an offense that doesn’t fit Tyrod’s skill set? Edited November 20, 2017 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: No one is pretending he is flawless. He is a decent starting QB but he needs a system built around him just like any QB. Deshaun Watson and Carson Wentz wouldn’t succeed in each other’s offenses. Didn’t we just fire Rex Ryan for trying to force his system on a defensive roster that wasn’t built for that? Why are we excusing Dennison coming in and designing an offense that doesn’t fit Tyrod’s skill set? The weirdest thing is how Dennison seemed to use more bootlegs and rollouts with Peterman than Tyrod which you would assume would fit Tyrod perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: The weirdest thing is how Dennison seemed to use more bootlegs and rollouts with Peterman than Tyrod which you would assume would fit Tyrod perfectly. That 3rd down play with Peterman rolling out of the pocket was a big middle finger to the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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