BurpleBull Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 As to not jinx Nathan Peterman's future as Bills quarterback I will refrain from suggesting that he could possibly fill the role of a franchise QB unless it becomes painfully obvious, but I will express that I have a really good feeling that the Bills will be just fine with him at QB. He'll have his share of miscues, but the Bills offense will be just fine under him. There was much debate as to who the Bills should draft this past April when it came to Deshaun Watson, Mitch Trubisky, Deshone Kizer, and Patrick Mahomes. Not so much when Nathan Peterman was talked about as a guy that should be a consideration. In fact, I can only remember a handful of Bills' fans that expressed support for the drafting of Peterman leading up to the draft. I think after this season the odds of the Bills drafting a QB in the 1st round will be just as unlikely as it was this past NFL Draft with inspired play from Nathan Peterman. Deshaun Watson and Mitch Trubisky were locks to go top 10 but the odds of them slipping down the draft boards were unlikely, so I began to consider the Bills other potential options. I had one wish, it was that the Bills didn't do anything drastic and select Patrick Mahomes with their 10th overall pick. The irony, the Chiefs, the Bills trading partners would turn around and use that acquired pick to draft Patrick Mahomes. Problem off of my hands personally, because personally, I didn't want the Bills to draft Mahomes in any round. My other one wish: That the Bills would say, "to hell with what the draft experts and critics think/will say" and draft Nathan Peterman in the 2nd rd. I really believed in what he brought to the table and could be a welcomed surprise. So why not draft high and get your man? Of course he got drafted much later, but things still worked out. What I saw that had me rate Peterman over Mahomes was a silent leader with accuracy, very good pocket presence, and the ability to go through progressions to find and get the ball to the open man. All qualities that translated well to the NFL for even a rookie QB in my opinion. Still yet to be seen, but I feel when teams start to key in on what a starting Mahomes does well and figure out what makes him uncomfortable and out of character as a QB, is when my doubts concerning his flaws becomes evident and that Peterman is the more polished, better overall NFL QB. Read a piece on the Bills official website a few days ago where Micah Hyde gave Peterman the moniker of "Nate Favre" because he sees him as the gunslinging QB that Brett Favre was, oddly enough there were plenty of Favre comparisons when it came to Mahomes . Fair enough, because I was also reminded of Brett Favre when watching Mahomes' Texas Tech highlights, just the uninspired, far less enthusaistic version of him. I thought of Peterman as a very good veteran backup QB who could step in and take over in the event that Tyrod Taylor's play faltered this season and Sean McDermott sounds as though he believes a 5th rd rookie QB in Peterman has more polish and poise than you'd expect from a rookie QB just as I believed. Only difference is that this "very good veteran backup QB" will only be 23 years of age upon being handed the reins. So with room to grow and weapons being added around him (weapons which he lacked as a Pittsburgh Panther), who knows how far the Bills can go with him. Only time will tell who the bigger draft-day trade winner was, but with admirable performances during this tough stretch of games, the Bills brass goes from desparate-looking to looking that much smarter on many fronts. The Peterman Effect: 1. ) Possible rejuvenated defensive effort. (Players may feel their defensive effort won't be wasted with improved offensive output and continue to grind). 2.) Will affect the run game positively if teams don't feel they can follow the Jets' Thursday Night bleuprint on stopping the Bills with better passing production. 3.) Zay Jones finally gets on track. I believe Peterman and Jones have a good rapport. Remember the Senior Bowl hookups. 4.) Nick O'Leary's value as a pass-catching receiver goes up. Peterman and O'Leary seem to have good chemistry. 5.) Big plays downfield. Peterman throws a very good and accurate deep pass more times than not. 6.) The offensive line doesn't look nearly as woeful. Peterman is decisive, finds the open man, and throws with good accuracy. Think Fitzpatrick's low sack % due to his decisiveness. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hope you are right. Find out Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 NFL.com gave Peterman a draft grade last April of 5.7 and Mahomes was 5.8. To be rated that close and get drafted 161 slots later..... I don't believe in jinxes but I think he is a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Peterman Can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) The resilience he displayed after what happened at Tennessee is really something you can't teach. He knows what it is like to be on the other side of the Tyrod benching, and look how it all came out for him (and the state of the Tennessee program and how far it has fallen). https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/peterman-vols-reflections Ben Roethlisberger made it happen as a rookie. Yes, Tom Brady did it also as a late rounder. Kurt Warner is probably by far the biggest underdog story I have seen in my lifetime, taking a terrible 1998 Rams team into a stellar 1999 and winning the whole damn thing. In this business, you NEVER KNOW what will happen. Regardless, if the Cubs can win the World Series and the Seahawks, Saints, Buccaneers and the Rams, then BY GOD the BUFFALO BILLS can eventually win it all. I'm not waiting 108 seasons, but hell... LOL GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! WIN WITH PETERMAN! Edited November 18, 2017 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The D certainly wasted zero effort against the Saints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Man, just like you guys, I'm full of renewed enthusiasm and think he can really deliver. But I rationally know the "think" in that first sentence should be replaced by "hope". We just don't know. And our expectations and hopes are so high that the mood won't be for Peterman to develop but to be good right away. Hey, it'd be awesome if he wins right away but we have to give rookie QBs and players a chance too! Yet who wants to see this year wasted? Not me! I don't care about next year's draft if Incognito and Kyle are getting too old, if Shady slows down, etc. So many holes, the Bills have to win NOW. They will improve in some areas next year BUT also regress! No better time than NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I must confess to being wowed somewhat by Mahomes athleticism and arm strength. I think I maybe do see a young Favre type. My concerns with him were mechanics and whether he could manage the transition to an NFL offence and of course nobody knows the answer to that question yet though of course Andy Reid thinks he does. To me he remains a top shelf prospect, but nothing more than that (which is basically what all these new QBs are). But there was no rational explanation for the Trubisky-Peterman draft position gap, especially considering that MT was pretty much a one year wonder and Peterman had a more complete resume. I actually think the two are comparable as far as their respective basic skill sets are concerned and I see them as close to equivalent prospects for continued development. I would not be surprised if their onfield performance the rest of this year bore this out. I would also not be surprised if Peterman outperformed Mitch either. Whether he pans out or not I think that as a QB prospect Peterman was indeed a steal in the fifth. I agree that the "Peterman effect" is a distinct possibility, though pretty much a best case scenario. As with any QB prospect, or indeed for a young player at any position, the question is whether his abilities continue to show an upward trajectory at the next and final level. This means not only addressing the flaws in his game but also improving on the things that he already did well in college. I don't think its unreasonable to think/hope that Peterman is that kind of guy. If he is he'll probably be the Bills starting QB for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I like it. The OP is the anti-Jeff's Magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I don’t know what the Chiefs plan for Pat Mahomes is moving forward. Alex Smith has been the least of their problems this year. He’s has a passer rating above 100 in all but 2 of their games. He fits Andy Reid’s offense and he’s been executing it really well all year. I wonder if they’re regretting not spending that pick on a defenseman because that’s where they’re struggling. And they’re without a 1st rounder next year... 2 1st round picks for a QB who’s riding the bench and no guarantee he’ll ever fix his mechanical issues, and a defense on the decline. Trubisky has been playing like crap too. You want to talk about a team hiding their QB, he had a game with 7 total pass attempts. He is struggling to read NFL defenses, he played in a spread system in college and it shows. I’m feeling pretty good about Tre’Davious White, an extra 1st, and Peterman in the 5th right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I cannot say I have any expertise on Peterman at Pitt, but I certainly like the decisiveness. It does mean our turnover ratio may take a hit, but I doubt we will start games with big sacks or go whole quarters with 3 and outs. KB will likely get utilized better and Matthews will start seeing more action on the crossing patterns which are his bread and butter. I think we might actually see our team become balanced in a good way. I can even conceive of ways that Peterman can make the Toldozer more effective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I was a Mahomes guy, but I have really liked what I have seen of Peterman. I can't wait for the game. One interesting aspect of both this past draft and the benching of Taylor is the whole "running QB" vs "traditional drop back QB" offensive system. Taylor wasn't ever a natural passing QB and he eventually lost his job because of this, we all know what happened with RGIII getting hurt and never being the same, Bridgewater was not a big guy and he eventually got severely hurt, Watson had a big body but small legs and got a major injury just running drills. Peterman looks like a really great value when you consider that he has the body and traditional drop back game of the ones who ended up being great QBs and who lasted 10 or more years. Maybe the Bills just simply did not want to go down the "running QB" path considering the only one who made it successful was Wilson. The name of the NFL game is for your QB to drop back and get rid of the ball quickly, not to run around and eventually get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 minute ago, 1billsfan said: I was a Mahomes guy, but I have really liked what I have seen of Peterman. I can't wait for the game. One interesting aspect of both this past draft and the benching of Taylor is the whole "running QB" vs "traditional drop back QB" offensive system. Taylor wasn't ever a natural passing QB and he eventually lost his job because of this, we all know what happened with RGIII getting hurt and never being the same, Bridgewater was not a big guy and he eventually got severely hurt, Watson had a big body but small legs and got a major injury just running drills. Peterman looks like a really great value when you consider that he has the body and traditional drop back game of the ones who ended up being great QBs and who lasted 10 or more years. Maybe the Bills just simply did not want to go down the "running QB" path considering the only one who made it successful was Wilson. The name of the NFL game is for your QB to drop back and get rid of the ball quickly, not to run around and eventually get hurt. Bridgewater isn't a running QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 This was a well-written, organized post...nice job, OP! The only thing I'd suggest is to get rid of the cliche "only time will tell" kind of obviousness. (Sorry, I'm grading college papers and I can't help it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bridgewater isn't a running QB. With Bridgewater it was more referring to his thin legs not built for the NFL Qb position. Lamar Jackson has that same wirey frame. You have to have a strong frame if you are going to be a long term answer at QB. Either that, or you need a lightening quick release like Brady or Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, 1billsfan said: With Bridgewater it was more referring to his thin legs not built for the NFL Qb position. Lamar Jackson has that same wirey frame. You have to have a strong frame if you are going to be a long term answer at QB. Either that, or you need a lightening quick release like Brady or Marino. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 You guys are in for a rude awakening if you think this qb change is gonna save this teams season. Your def dreaming any world where you think petermen is better than Mahomes. Im rootin for the rook but the OP needs to get real and stop ball washing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Mahomes got rave reviews in Camp and made plays in the preseason. I never have seen Peterman as an attempt to be the answer here. The chances he becomes a high caliber starter are less than 5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 14 hours ago, Marty McFly said: You guys are in for a rude awakening if you think this qb change is gonna save this teams season. Your def dreaming any world where you think petermen is better than Mahomes. Im rootin for the rook but the OP needs to get real and stop ball washing. Nathan Peterman can't save the season by himself, I certainly didn't suggest that. The defense has to get back on track and the team has to play with a renewed sense of them against the doubters. The run game has to click again most importantly perhaps though. If the ground game is working, the defense causes problems for QB's as it did early on, Peterman plays within himself, doesn't turn the ball over, then yes the Bills will have a very good shot at making the playoffs. None of this is unfathomable. I like the Bills chances with Peterman. Team just has to return to its old form, from this season and a season past. "Ball washing"? Come on. Mahomes has the upside because he has a cannon arm no matter if he's throwing off his back foot or not. Outside of that, how is he head and shoulders better than Peterman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I hope he has a solid game and we win today. I hope he saves his Pitt vs Clemson performance for when we play the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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