Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Still shouldn't happen. You exactly right. And McDermott was on top of it in the press conference saying the same, instead of dismissing it because they won... Starting to really like this management team. I can feel the gravitational pull of optimism sucking me in again. When will I ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Wow. Glad we got the win, this can't ever happen again Agreed. Now it all makes sense why they changed to zone. Easier to cover with 10 men on field. LOL. Seriously: Bills fans just need to enjoy a hot start and good D for a change. It has been way too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Has McD commented on this yet? And if so, what did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 You exactly right. And McDermott was on top of it in the press conference saying the same, instead of dismissing it because they won... Starting to really like this management team. I can feel the gravitational pull of optimism sucking me in again. When will I ever learn? Hopefully, the Bills learn from this. History suggests had this bent the Cheats* Brady would have taken advantage of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Has McD commented on this yet? And if so, what did he say? @Nick_Wojton VIDEO:McDermott said the team knew they had 10 guys on field during late 4th down, but couldn't do anything. Called for improved subs #Bills https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/914917496662216704/pu/vid/1280x720/z5VxLjBX-54zzGhq.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @Nick_Wojton VIDEO:McDermott said the team knew they had 10 guys on field during late 4th down, but couldn't do anything. Called for improved subs #Bills https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/914917496662216704/pu/vid/1280x720/z5VxLjBX-54zzGhq.mp4 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I really don't see what the big deal is. We'll put 12 out there for the next one. Common people!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) @Nick_Wojton VIDEO:McDermott said the team knew they had 10 guys on field during late 4th down, but couldn't do anything. Called for improved subs #Bills https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/914917496662216704/pu/vid/1280x720/z5VxLjBX-54zzGhq.mp4 Thankfully they(players and coaches) were aware they could not call another time out. That would have been so Rexy to do that and get 5 yd delay of game penalty and Falcons 1st down. Edited October 2, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Thankfully they were aware they could not call another time out. That would have made the situation even worse with an automatic 1st down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 That would have made the situation even worse with an automatic 1st down. Yep. BUT, I would love to know the circumstances of the timeout they did call on the play before. I assume we didn't like the matchup. But the Falcons were not ready at all and there were only four seconds on the play clock if that was the play I'm remembering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I think some folks consider the label of "Jauron ball" to be a slight; maybe I'm misreading you, but I don't see it that way. Jauron ball is literally the only way this team is going to win games this year--they aren't talented enough to win any other way. Philosophical question that I was asking my group right before the play: if they got the 1st down, would you call a timeout and let them score on the next play? You are absolutely right, this is the only way they can win. And under the circumstances I am therefore all for it because I don't believe in the tank process. If you have the right personnel.........it can get you to the playoffs on the regular.......in which case it's known as Marty Ball. But the reason they absolutely have to play Jauron Ball is because they effectively traded Gillislee and Watkins for a 5th in 2017 and a 2nd in 2018. They had a tremendous offense in 2016........that it is no longer tremendous is their doing/choice. And it's not like what they were doing last season was incongruent with the bend/don't break defense........thru 15 games they had the fewest offensive turnovers since the SB era, which included ten seasons where they only played 14 games..........the offensive personnel decisions remains perplexing. I find it funny that McD is getting something of a "Riverboat gambler" identity because he goes for long field goals...........Rex loved him some long field goals too.......most conservative coaches do........it's by no means brazen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 frankly if you get away with it, it doesn't matter. I'll take the win in October and never think about it as the year goes on. Win beats a loss for most fans..but not all. Chance to B word reins supreme for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @MatthewFairburn Tre White said he learned that the Bills had 10 guys on the field for 4th and 1 this morning. He had no idea until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 It's a fine line between a win and a loss in many of these games. If the Ryan play is called differently on the field ( possible) or T White is called for holding or PI for his shirt grab on the final 4th down, it's very possible that people are talking about the 10 men on the field a la Rex Ryan. Sometimes you get the breaks and it makes all the difference. It makes no sense to pretend things didn't happen, couldn't bite the Bills in the a$$ down the road , or had no impact on the game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @Nick_Wojton VIDEO:Tre White said he didn't know #Bills only had 10 on the field during late 4th & 1. Tyrod told him this morning & he didn't believe him https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/914945529276243969/pu/vid/1280x720/XhmXnz5DHRV3Jo7_.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 You are absolutely right, this is the only way they can win. And under the circumstances I am therefore all for it because I don't believe in the tank process. If you have the right personnel.........it can get you to the playoffs on the regular.......in which case it's known as Marty Ball. But the reason they absolutely have to play Jauron Ball is because they effectively traded Gillislee and Watkins for a 5th in 2017 and a 2nd in 2018. They had a tremendous offense in 2016........that it is no longer tremendous is their doing/choice. And it's not like what they were doing last season was incongruent with the bend/don't break defense........thru 15 games they had the fewest offensive turnovers since the SB era, which included ten seasons where they only played 14 games..........the offensive personnel decisions remains perplexing. I find it funny that McD is getting something of a "Riverboat gambler" identity because he goes for long field goals...........Rex loved him some long field goals too.......most conservative coaches do........it's by no means brazen. Spot on commentary as per usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I excoriated Rex for total non-sense like this, inexcusable, this is not pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Was this a mistake? Yes. Were we fortunate? Yes. Is it time we get breaks? FACK YES!!!!! IT'S ABOUT FACKIN TIME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Bigger story is Matt Ryan never saw it. The play only had 2 falcons running routes. I'm guessing the problem was the injury to Humber and the formation the Falcons came out in. Edited October 2, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Not sure if anyone else posted this, but on the fourth and 1 play, the missing Bills defender was the LB who should have covered the RB who came out of the backfield, ran across the line to gain, and turned around, wide open. But Ryan was not looking his way. The biggest break of the game was Ryan failing to take advantage of our biggest mistake of the game. Whoops, my mistake. The play with the RB wide open over the middle was a little earlier, on second and 5 from the 14. The RB makes the first down easily. Instead Ryan completed to a WR and White pushed him out of bounds, setting up the final two incompletions. Edited October 2, 2017 by Utah John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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