Watkins101 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This is a real post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 'Nuff said. Heady play. Knew he couldn't make the first, protected himself because he knew if he got hurt, EJ was coming in and we were for sure done for. Add it to the Wall of Fame ceremony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Not even McDermott would clap for this idea. We have a winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 the mustache wall of fame? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 'Nuff said. This is actually proof positive supporting my position. Orton throws for 3000+ yds, takes us to a winning season and just look at the bottom of that screen shot. "Ryan Fitzpatrick throws for 13 of 19 for 135 yards FINAL SCORE!!!" Now that's the caliber of player we've had in the past 17 years. Yet you all denigrate and attack the only QB who has taken us to the promised land of competitive football. "Real" Bills fans reward success; they don't laugh in the face of a competitor. #disheartened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 'Nuff said. What's ironic is Fitz's name in the graphic. We all know Fitz would have gotten that first down. Orton is a gutless pu$$y, and shame on the OP for even bringing up this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Good god no. A guy who didn't want to play football. Came out of retirement because of $$ Then quit again. God friggin no. I'm with Dave: "God friggin no." Drew Bledsoe and Ryan Fitzpatrick deserve to be on the WOF long before Kyle Orton, and I wouldn't vote for either one of them, either, although they both played better than Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This is actually proof positive supporting my position. Orton throws for 3000+ yds, takes us to a winning season and just look at the bottom of that screen shot. "Ryan Fitzpatrick throws for 13 of 19 for 135 yards FINAL SCORE!!!" Now that's the caliber of player we've had in the past 17 years. Yet you all denigrate and attack the only QB who has taken us to the promised land of competitive football. "Real" Bills fans reward success; they don't laugh in the face of a competitor. #disheartened What's ironic is Fitz's name in the graphic. We all know Fitz would have gotten that first down. Orton is a gutless pu$$y, and shame on the OP for even bringing up this topic. Fergy is two steps ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This is actually proof positive supporting my position. Orton throws for 3000+ yds, takes us to a winning season and just look at the bottom of that screen shot. "Ryan Fitzpatrick throws for 13 of 19 for 135 yards FINAL SCORE!!!" Now that's the caliber of player we've had in the past 17 years. Yet you all denigrate and attack the only QB who has taken us to the promised land of competitive football. "Real" Bills fans reward success; they don't laugh in the face of a competitor. #disheartened Don't judge Orton compared to Fitzy... Judge him compared to the other folks on the wall. You will find there is no comparison. Taylor has 2 seasons over 3000 yards with the Bills, him too? Fact is, 3000 yards is not an impressive stat. As I stated on page 2, it wasn't even top 20 that year. Just because we have had garbage for decades doesn't mean we should reward less smelly garbage as fame-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 What's ironic is Fitz's name in the graphic. We all know Fitz would have gotten that first down. Orton is a gutless pu$$y, and shame on the OP for even bringing up this topic. Is this a public shaming or just a private shaming? If it's the latter try private messaging me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 "forgot his wallet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Don't judge Orton compared to Fitzy... Judge him compared to the other folks on the wall. You will find there is no comparison. Taylor has 2 seasons over 3000 yards with the Bills, him too? Fact is, 3000 yards is not an impressive stat. As I stated on page 2, it wasn't even top 20 that year. Just because we have had garbage for decades doesn't mean we should reward less smelly garbage as fame-worthy. As I said, if you extrapolate 12 games for 3000 yds to a full 16 game season he would be over 4000 yards. Plus, the ESPN stats show that he got better toward the end of the season so if he played those first games instead of EJ, he would have been in his prime by game 6 through 16. He would have easily surpassed 4000 yards and 28 TD's which is Wall-worthy. It seems some people on here want to reward mediocrity but scoff in the face of gamesmanship and talent. Gone are the days of rewarding success unless that success is packaged in perfect gold wrapping paper with no flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 As I said, if you extrapolate 12 games for 3000 yds to a full 16 game season he would be over 4000 yards. Plus, the ESPN stats show that he got better toward the end of the season so if he played those first games instead of EJ, he would have been in his prime by game 6 through 16. He would have easily surpassed 4000 yards and 28 TD's which is Wall-worthy. It seems some people on here want to reward mediocrity but scoff in the face of gamesmanship and talent. Gone are the days of rewarding success unless that success is packaged in perfect gold wrapping paper with no flaws. One season is not Wall worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Yes. I say there's good reason to have him up there. * Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years. * 12 games played for 3018 yards (extrapolate those numbers to a full 16 games and we're talking 4000 yards in a full season) * QBR of 87.8 * 15 rushes, 14 yards with a long of 10 yards in 12 games (extrapolate that to a full season and he would have easily had over 100) * 18 TD's and 10 INT's is a ratio of 2 to 1...extrapolate that over a full season and he would have had 24 TD's * Mental toughness and team leader * If we had him as a rookie in 2005 he probably would have surpassed Kelly (or come close) if you extrapolate his stats from 2014 over the course of nine NFL seasons. I'm not saying he is a lock to get a place on the stadium Wall of Fame, but the team should give full consideration to his credentials both as a player and team leader considering how he came in a led our team to its best record in a very long time. I'd support this only if Felton Huggins joins him on the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 LOL .....I think Gary Marangi has to go up before Orton............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Last week I posted in a thread that it was the dumbest thread I've ever seen on this board. Well, that is now replaced with this one. Get a clue, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 As I said, if you extrapolate 12 games for 3000 yds to a full 16 game season he would be over 4000 yards. Plus, the ESPN stats show that he got better toward the end of the season so if he played those first games instead of EJ, he would have been in his prime by game 6 through 16. He would have easily surpassed 4000 yards and 28 TD's which is Wall-worthy. It seems some people on here want to reward mediocrity but scoff in the face of gamesmanship and talent. Gone are the days of rewarding success unless that success is packaged in perfect gold wrapping paper with no flaws. But you can't extrapolate. How many other qbs on that list missed games? Lots of "if's" in this post. Wall of fame is not for if's and maybes, it is what have you actually done. He actually threw for the 22nd ranked yards, actually didn't make the playoffs, and actually quit on us after 1 season. Even if you did extrapolate, and all the if's were true, he still isn't a wall candidate for 1 playoff-less year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Fan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Yes. I say there's good reason to have him up there. * Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years. * 12 games played for 3018 yards (extrapolate those numbers to a full 16 games and we're talking 4000 yards in a full season) * QBR of 87.8 * 15 rushes, 14 yards with a long of 10 yards in 12 games (extrapolate that to a full season and he would have easily had over 100) * 18 TD's and 10 INT's is a ratio of 2 to 1...extrapolate that over a full season and he would have had 24 TD's * Mental toughness and team leader * If we had him as a rookie in 2005 he probably would have surpassed Kelly (or come close) if you extrapolate his stats from 2014 over the course of nine NFL seasons. I'm not saying he is a lock to get a place on the stadium Wall of Fame, but the team should give full consideration to his credentials both as a player and team leader considering how he came in a led our team to its best record in a very long time. This says a lot about how low this franchise has fallen. To consider a QB that played only 12 games for our Wall of Fame says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 To those who opposes the OP's view, what are your thoughts on Tyrod? Not as a wall of fame candidate, but just whether you think he is good, with the potential to be great or whether you think he sucks with the potential to be average at best. Kind of a tbd litmus test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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