rodneykm Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 But fewer parents will let their kids play football This. I think you'll see parents steer kids more towards soccer, baseball and basketball. While those are not without their own risks, they are no where near what the risks of playing football are. I don't think it'll be anytime soon, but some of us might see the NFL completely different to todays version in our lifetime. Just my thoughts anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Hmmmm... but it's a very biased pool they are using for the brains (and rightly so.) Saying 90% of those particularly picked and set aside have CTE does not mean 90% of everyone who played football will develop CTE. (I am sorry to have to say that I have to say that second sentence, the way it is going in our world....) Absolutely. These people donated because they suspected they had it. However it is still a very high proportion, and validates what many are experiencing. Science is extremely behind in brain injury related issues. I and a friend who have MTBI have seen doctors and specialists. In some ways I knew much of what they know from my own research or more than they do. Tragically, there really isn't enough research funding being funneled into this. It isn't known as common a disease, and there is no "pill" that will cure it so medical companies can make huge profits off the research. Capitalism is a cruel bytch. As far as I know, the most money being spent on brain injury issues is being done by US military because so many vets come back with traumatic brain injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Are these men making the choice to play football? Do they have the option to not play football and prevent CTE? Those are the two questions you need to ask. I have no issue with the adults playing football and choosing to deal with the repercussions. The issue is with kids and football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 This. I think you'll see parents steer kids more towards soccer, baseball and basketball. While those are not without their own risks, they are no where near what the risks of playing football are. I don't think it'll be anytime soon, but some of us might see the NFL completely different to todays version in our lifetime. Just my thoughts anyway. Soccer has been found to be just as bad, if not worse, due to all the heading of the ball. The big issue is what they call micro-collisions. It's not the big concussion that does the damage, it's all the little bangs sustained in practices and drills, for lineman especially. Always banging into a sled or dummy. They found that all that heading the ball adds up in soccer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 where in the world does that come from? Aikman had like 11 concussions, seems to be doing fine. Jimbo had lord knows how manu..seems to be fine. Tasker, Thurmal, Bruce..all seem to be doing fine. Talley does not...how do you make the leap they are all doomed shortly after retirement? It's not true. Thurman Thomas has CTE: http://nesn.com/2016/04/bills-legend-thurman-thomas-reveals-his-scary-sobering-cte-symptoms/ https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/thurman-thomas-my-brain-looks-like-it-went-through-a-car-windshield/ http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15314750/former-buffalo-bills-star-thurman-thomas-says-mood-swings-concussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I have no issue with the adults playing football and choosing to deal with the repercussions. The issue is with kids and football. I understand this is anecdotal, and I agree it would be good to know all of the repercussions, but the whole kids thing is where the CTE folks lose me. I played from about 6-7 years old, had a group of friends I played with all the way through high school. Know plenty of others that played from middle school. We're all about 40, I don't know a single one of us that has noticeable brain issues. (Besides what you can derive from my posts, haha) Sure, I guess we might develop issues down the road when we're 60-70+ but at that point there will be a long list of other factors I've brought on myself to damage my body. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It's not true. Thurman Thomas has CTE: http://nesn.com/2016/04/bills-legend-thurman-thomas-reveals-his-scary-sobering-cte-symptoms/ https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/thurman-thomas-my-brain-looks-like-it-went-through-a-car-windshield/ http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15314750/former-buffalo-bills-star-thurman-thomas-says-mood-swings-concussions No, Thurman Thomas has CTE symptoms. CTE can't be diagnosed without an autopsy...and last I checked, he's not dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 No, Thurman Thomas has CTE symptoms. CTE can't be diagnosed without an autopsy...and last I checked, he's not dead. Fact: 100% of football players will die SHUT DOWN THE LEAGUE, FOLKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Fact: 100% of football players will die SHUT DOWN THE LEAGUE, FOLKS! Some are even so distraught they can't play football anymore they succumb to self induced acute lead poising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Fact: 100% of football players will die SHUT DOWN THE LEAGUE, FOLKS! Yeah...but if you ask Pats fans, Brady will be back to lead them to another Superbowl three days later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 But fewer parents will let their kids play football This is without question. I know several parents that have already done this. Who knows the long term effect of this however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Are these men making the choice to play football? Do they have the option to not play football and prevent CTE? Those are the two questions you need to ask. this reminds me of a topic debated on ppp. Climate change. No actual science beyond a simple snapshot. It's nothing at all I'm concerned with until Leonardo DiCaprio tells me to worryBut fewer parents will let their kids play footballno they won't. Those dainty parents would have never let them play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 this reminds me of a topic debated on ppp. Climate change. No actual science beyond a simple snapshot. It's nothing at all I'm concerned with until Leonardo DiCaprio tells me to worry no they won't. Those dainty parents would have never let them play football. No, 99% of all pier reviewed science says it's real. The debate is how much it will change the planet not "if" it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Soccer has been found to be just as bad, if not worse, due to all the heading of the ball. The big issue is what they call micro-collisions. It's not the big concussion that does the damage, it's all the little bangs sustained in practices and drills, for lineman especially. Always banging into a sled or dummy. They found that all that heading the ball adds up in soccer too. Not even a hope of pretending that soccer is anywhere near the damage done by football. Think about it... No, 99% of all pier reviewed science says it's real. The debate is how much it will change the planet not "if" it will. They've cut open the cadavers and found it, that's real science. The other stuff is a lot of guesswork and predictions that fall flat, that's not real science, but it's not to be ignored either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 How so? There still will be people that are willing to take these risks for the money.... Because the feeder pools will dry up. The NFL and the NCAA have deep pockets, and may be able to absorb the costs of lawsuits into their business model. That won't be the case with high school or youth football. Once the law suit comes and bankrupts a school district, the school districts will stop offering the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 No, 99% of all pier reviewed science says it's real. The debate is how much it will change the planet not "if" it will. you don't know much about science do ya? Protip: sample size is crucial so scientific fact vs scientific theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 you don't know much about science do ya? Protip: sample size is crucial so scientific fact vs scientific theory. Protip2.0: don't lecture someone on what scientific theory refers to if you don't understand the definition yourself. And don't use it in opposition to 'scientific fact'. That's just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 No, Thurman Thomas has CTE symptoms. CTE can't be diagnosed without an autopsy...and last I checked, he's not dead. That's not true. You can test for it. No, 99% of all pier reviewed science says it's real. The debate is how much it will change the planet not "if" it will. Seriously. Pier review is the pillar on which the scientific method stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Protip2.0: don't lecture someone on what scientific theory refers to if you don't understand the definition yourself. And don't use it in opposition to 'scientific fact'. That's just brutal. k. I'll wait here for scientific evidence to either. Pro tip. I'll be waiting a loooooong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Soccer has been found to be just as bad, if not worse, due to all the heading of the ball. The big issue is what they call micro-collisions. It's not the big concussion that does the damage, it's all the little bangs sustained in practices and drills, for lineman especially. Always banging into a sled or dummy. They found that all that heading the ball adds up in soccer too. I read a study that the number 1 kid sport for concussions was girls soccer. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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