papazoid Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 20. Buffalo Bills Overall grade: C Pass blocking: D+Run blocking: A-Stability/consistency: D- This was the most hit-miss blocking wall in the league last year. The Bills placed first in pocket time on vertical passes (2.9 seconds), but had the worst dropback hit rate (24.6 percent). They were tied for the worst screen pass blocking grade (F), yet had the fifth highest GBR (42.1 percent). This maddening inconsistency is why the Bills had a D-minus grade in stability/consistency despite returning four starters. Fantasy owners can probably rely on the run blocking for LeSean McCoy, but otherwise should consider this blocking wall untrustworthy. http://insider.espn.com/fantasy/football/insider/story/_/id/19690153/fantasy-football-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-nfl-teams-impact-players-production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The QB gets hit because he hangs on to the ball for 5 seconds. The line was excellent at run blocking and average in pass blocking. They played well despite injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) That ranking is too low. The Bills are absolutely a top 10 OL and potentially top 5. The yards before contact numbers say it all. Edited June 22, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The QB gets hit because he hangs on to the ball for 5 seconds. The line was excellent at run blocking and average in pass blocking. They played well despite injuries This. The reason Tyrod got hit so much is because he doesn't let go of the damn football. He had the most time in the pocket on downfield passes.... eventually you have to throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 If Glenn stays 100% , Mills is said to have made a lot of progress , then Dawkins can be developed . Taylor has to release the ball faster is the biggest factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 If Glenn stays 100% , Mills is said to have made a lot of progress , then Dawkins can be developed . Taylor has to release the ball faster is the biggest factor. I'll believe it when I see it in actual competition during the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) This. The reason Tyrod got hit so much is because he doesn't let go of the damn football. He had the most time in the pocket on downfield passes.... eventually you have to throw it. A sack's causes : (1) The O-line whiffs on blocking, (2) The QB is indecisive - a negative, or (3) The QB scrambles to make a play - frequently a positive. With the Bills all three were regular occurrences. Some pro-Taylor people lay it all on the line; most anti-Taylor people lay it all on the QB; yet no single answer is correct. In fact, the line had long stretches where pass blocking was sub-par and Taylor was under pressure as soon as he set to throw. But he can also be maddeningly indecisive at times, often bolting from the pocket early. And yet he often makes plays while doing so. Conclusion : Both Taylor and the line need to be better - and TT has to find that sweet spot where improvisation becomes a plus rather than a minus. Edited June 22, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Would never pay for ESPN insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 That ranking is too low. The Bills are absolutely a top 10 OL and potentially top 5. The yards before contact numbers say it all. Yup. Rankings and lists are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Not with Jordan Mills as your starting RT. He was god awful in pass protection for most of the year.... Hopefully the rookie Dawkins can play the position and play it well. And he was good in run blocking. Every line has weaknesses but there aren't 10 better OLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think the Bills are top 5. The need for "OL help" is greatly exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think the Bills are top 5. The need for "OL help" is greatly exaggerated. RT is the weak spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Here's what I saw last year. Disagree if you want. * Our offensive linemen were not road-graders for the most part. For example, we often didn't generate much forward push in short yardage situations. Nor did we flatten a lot of defenders. * Our linemen did, however, execute Roman's run blocking schemes beautifully. They got to the right place at the right time and created run lanes. And this is why we led the league in ypc and ypc before contact. * Our line overall was not good at pass protection. Mills was just plain awful. Yep, TT isn't always decisive with the ball. But far too often the guy was running for his life immediately after the snap. I can't disagree with an 'A' for run blocking and 'D' for pass pro. Let's hope Mills really is better this year. Or Dawkins has a great rookie season. Edited June 22, 2017 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 RT is the weak spot. A weak spot? In a top 5 OL? The horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 A lot of the sacks that were recorded against us was when Taylor ran out of bounds after scrambling before the line of scrimmage. Not sure what the percentage was, but there were quite a few. If he can just throw the ball away in that situation, our sack numbers would have been different. Numbers don't tell the whole story. Go and watch the tape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 It's pretty rare that there not be a 'weak spot' in a five man unit. I remember re-watching one of the Bills Super Bowls not too long ago and I honestly couldn't even remember the name of the Right Tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 But far too often the guy was running for his life immediately after the snap. I can't disagree that happened some (and it came mainly from the right side of the line) but I think it was a tiny percentage of time comapred to the number of times Tyrod had 3 seconds to throw it and didn't and then got hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 It's pretty rare that there not be a 'weak spot' in a five man unit. I remember re-watching one of the Bills Super Bowls not too long ago and I honestly couldn't even remember the name of the Right Tackle. You should because House Ballard was a dammed good RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 20. Buffalo Bills Overall grade: C Pass blocking: D+ Run blocking: A- Stability/consistency: D- This was the most hit-miss blocking wall in the league last year. The Bills placed first in pocket time on vertical passes (2.9 seconds), but had the worst dropback hit rate (24.6 percent). They were tied for the worst screen pass blocking grade (F), yet had the fifth highest GBR (42.1 percent). This maddening inconsistency is why the Bills had a D-minus grade in stability/consistency despite returning four starters. Fantasy owners can probably rely on the run blocking for LeSean McCoy, but otherwise should consider this blocking wall untrustworthy. http://insider.espn.com/fantasy/football/insider/story/_/id/19690153/fantasy-football-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-nfl-teams-impact-players-production I'm not sure I understand how the run blocking grade can be an A- when they had the best running game in the league by every possible measure. What does it take to get an A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 System will help O line and TT. Dennison system will be good for this team. Sammy being healthy for 16 games will certainly help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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