C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 This is why the talk of a receiver in the 1st round blows my mind as incredibly stupid. This guy might be a 4th rounder and if he goes to the right team, he could outproduce a top 10 pick. I got this from a Steelers site and they are awesome at evaluating WRs. I think this guy is a perfect compliment to Sammy. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/josh-reynolds?id=2558194 http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-texas-wr-josh-reynolds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 This is why the talk of a receiver in the 1st round blows my mind as incredibly stupid. This guy might be a 4th rounder and if he goes to the right team, he could outproduce a top 10 pick. I got this from a Steelers site and they are awesome at evaluating WRs. I think this guy is a perfect compliment to Sammy. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/josh-reynolds?id=2558194 http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-texas-wr-josh-reynolds/ Honestly he's nothing like Mike Williams or Corey Davis as a prospect He's good But he's slight of frame with not much room for growth and he's not a burner Solid 4-5 round pick but his skill set is vastly inferior to the top guys and he doesn't have a high ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Honestly he's nothing like Mike Williams or Corey Davis as a prospect He's good But he's slight of frame with not much room for growth and he's not a burner Solid 4-5 round pick but his skill set is vastly inferior to the top guys and he doesn't have a high ceiling The thing is....when you get past your first round pick (and even then) it is a lot harder to predict what is actually gonna be on the board in those rounds.... Lets say you dont take a pass catcher early......and it is absolute need......then there is a run on the position. Now your stuck because you decided to wait until the 4th round. Im all in on OJ Howard myself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The thing is....when you get past your first round pick (and even then) it is a lot harder to predict what is actually gonna be on the board in those rounds.... Lets say you dont take a pass catcher early......and it is absolute need......then there is a run on the position. Now your stuck because you decided to wait until the 4th round. Im all in on OJ Howard myself...... If we go offense I hope it's Howard He would add the most versatility and upgrade our offense immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Im all in on OJ Howard myself...... If we go offense I hope it's Howard He would add the most versatility and upgrade our offense immediately Me, too. All aboard the Howard train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Honestly he's nothing like Mike Williams or Corey Davis as a prospect He's good But he's slight of frame with not much room for growth and he's not a burner Solid 4-5 round pick but his skill set is vastly inferior to the top guys and he doesn't have a high ceiling I like both of the top guys and won't say he has a higher ceiling than them. But my bigger point is so much more important what team they go to. I'm honestly not sure Davis/ Williams will have better production on our team than a 4th rounder who goes to another team. And this Reynolds guy plays with an edge. If we go offense I hope it's Howard He would add the most versatility and upgrade our offense immediately Howard Mahomes Reynolds And the rest defensive players would be a great draft for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I like both of the top guys and won't say he has a higher ceiling than them. But my bigger point is so much more important what team they go to. I'm honestly not sure Davis/ Williams will have better production on our team than a 4th rounder who goes to another team. And this Reynolds guy plays with an edge. Howard Mahomes Reynolds And the rest defensive players would be a great draft for me. I understand your point. There will probably be a handful of talented recievers on the board in the third and fourth round Those guys benefit the most also when they get picked up by teams with established great QBs like Pittsburgh, and New England or Green bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) I think Howard goes before 10. Would be great to snag an uber talented TE in my lifetime. Edited April 14, 2017 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I think Howard goes before 10. Would be great to snag an uber talented TE in my lifetime. but it is a TE I honestly am hoping that people freak out over these qbs.....pushing him down to us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Reynolds was a TD machine in college. He was never covered as a #1 WR. A&M always had Malcome Kennedy, Ricky Seals-Jones, Speedy Noil and Christian Kirk, who took most of the safety's attention, leaving Reynolds facing single coverage. He is slight of build as mentioned, but has good body control to make a catch. Honestly, Malachi Dupre is going to be the steal of the draft at WR. He was always a big playmaker for LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I think Howard goes before 10. Would be great to snag an uber talented TE in my lifetime. You can do that soon in Buffalo! This is the turning point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-mack-hollins-wr-north-carolina/ http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-north-carolina-wr-mack-hollins/ This guy seems like a player McDermott would covet in the latter rounds of the draft. Character. Effort. Potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I like both of the top guys and won't say he has a higher ceiling than them. But my bigger point is so much more important what team they go to. I'm honestly not sure Davis/ Williams will have better production on our team than a 4th rounder who goes to another team. And this Reynolds guy plays with an edge. Howard Mahomes Reynolds And the rest defensive players would be a great draft for me. Where are you taking Mahomes, Biscuit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I'm not sure it matters in what order you take what position this year. The Bills pretty much HAVE TO hit on all of them: WR, CB, OLB, SS, and... Then there positions that they'd LIKE TO hit on: Back up QB, Back up FS, Back up TE, Back up OT, Back up RB (touchdown Mike status?) Lots of holes to fill no matter how you look at it. This is not going to be for the faint of heart. Mess this up and 2017 is going to be ugly! Glad I'm not the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Reynolds was a TD machine in college. He was never covered as a #1 WR. A&M always had Malcome Kennedy, Ricky Seals-Jones, Speedy Noil and Christian Kirk, who took most of the safety's attention, leaving Reynolds facing single coverage. He is slight of build as mentioned, but has good body control to make a catch. Honestly, Malachi Dupre is going to be the steal of the draft at WR. He was always a big playmaker for LSU. Good information. And if he got drafted by the Bills, he will never get double covered. And Dupre is another good name. The next of really good LSU WRs who gets undervalued because they have crap qbs. Don't draft a wr at #10! Where are you taking Mahomes, Biscuit? Man, I was hoping to get him in 2nd but it doesn't seem like that will be possible now. Ideally, I would like to get a Howard type player and I'd be fine trading back into the 1st if they love PM. Hell, if they love him, draft him at 10. I also like the idea of a qb and wr getting drafted together. https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-mack-hollins-wr-north-carolina/ http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-north-carolina-wr-mack-hollins/ This guy seems like a player McDermott would covet in the latter rounds of the draft. Character. Effort. Potential. Good information. I have heard some sleeper hype on Bug Howard. But again, receiver is always one of the deepest positions in the draft. Don't overvalue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Man, I was hoping to get him in 2nd but it doesn't seem like that will be possible now. Ideally, I would like to get a Howard type player and I'd be fine trading back into the 1st if they love PM. Hell, if they love him, draft him at 10. Yeah, that's why I asked, I don't think he gets to #2. I'm with you, trade back a bit if you can and if he's "your guy" grab him. To hell with the pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I went to a couple of A&M games this year and I really liked what I saw out of Reynolds. I think he could be taken as early as the late 2nd and last no longer than the 4th. His upside is very good and he was great in the games I went to. Throwing to him was an auto first down and is an incredible possession receiver. He also is a great red zone target. Another guy I like from A&M not named Myles Garrett is the Safety, Justin Evans. Possible 2nd round pick as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 If we go offense I hope it's Howard He would add the most versatility and upgrade our offense immediately ....sure this is old school stubbornness being older than dirt, but I am reticent about any first round investment in receivers, be it WR or TE, because I have YET to be convinced TT has the gray matter ability to process the field and find guys open that we do have...convince me otherwise,,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 ....sure this is old school stubbornness being older than dirt, but I am reticent about any first round investment in receivers, be it WR or TE, because I have YET to be convinced TT has the gray matter ability to process the field and find guys open that we do have...convince me otherwise,,,,,,,,,,, All valid points OJ Howard is a very good blocker in the run game. Adding essentially another tackle. Add 2 TE sets with Clay (who is also a very good run blocker) and we can mask our RT weaknesses It also allows us to spread clay outside on certain packages while keeping Howard inline as a blocker/checkdown/Recieving option where TT often turns too He is also too big for safeties and too fast/smooth for 90% of LBrs Complete package and nightmare matchup that TT shouldn't even struggle to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 All valid points OJ Howard is a very good blocker in the run game. Adding essentially another tackle. Add 2 TE sets with Clay (who is also a very good run blocker) and we can mask our RT weaknesses It also allows us to spread clay outside on certain packages while keeping Howard inline as a blocker/checkdown/Recieving option where TT often turns too He is also too big for safeties and too fast/smooth for 90% of LBrs Complete package and nightmare matchup that TT shouldn't even struggle to find You took my response haha. A reason I prefer a TE to a wr is because a TE can have a direct effect on the running name as well as the passing. Clay hasn't put up monastery numbers (and I think the qb is a big part of that) but he is a huge part of the success in the running game. Also, we need to remember that the draft isn't for one year. If TT doesn't get the job done this year, he won't be our starter. A young qb stepping into a situation with Sammy, OJ, & a guy like Reynolds is off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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