keepthefaith Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Magox said: What I dislike the most about the Republican party is the tone and prevalent sentiment among the core of the base towards illegal immigration. I absolutely believe that there should be more controls at the border and that illegal immigration is an issue that needs to be resolved. I absolutely believe that the Democrats are playing games by not giving in on the border but again, it's tribalistic politics and this is the way the game is played. Nancy Pelosi has to not give in or she'll lose her base. Unfortunately that's just the way it is. On immigration, Trump has taken a no-brainer, a slam dunk that we need to finally end illegal immigration and he has made it a contest. 90% of his communication on the matter is over-simplistic and fails to effectively make the case. Yeah same could be said about his communication on most everything. His wall mantra (failing to articulate the problem and solution fully or well) hurts the cause and makes it easy for the opposition to argue for the status quo. Trump for a business guy is mostly terrible at selling a position on issues. Republican politicians should try very responsible governing which mostly they don't do. That IMO is the best winning formula for both the country and re-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: The Rs are not all racists any more than the Ds are, but the Rs don't look like America with incoming Congressional classes like this: Wow. Racist much? Why is everything skin color to you leftists? It's 2019. Maybe you should drop your excessive need to label and qualify people specifically and exclusively on how they look. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Wow. Racist much? Why is everything skin color to you leftists? It's 2019. Maybe you should drop your excessive need to label and qualify people specifically and exclusively on how they look. Brutal. It's all he has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Wow. Racist much? Why is everything skin color to you leftists? It's 2019. Maybe you should drop your excessive need to label and qualify people specifically and exclusively on how they look. Brutal. Join the discussion. Republican strategists recognize this as an issue, whether you want to or not. The Ds play the race card in a horrible way and the Rs are losing the demographic shift. I’d like them not to. But let’s name call: That goes somewhere productive. Edited February 7, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeginnersMind Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magox said: The problem with the Rubio and Bushes is that they are seen as corporate cookie cutter globalist big government Republicans. Sure, they are socially Conservative and they want to cut the fat off some spending programs and they believe in limited government in certain areas but in others not so much. They are seen as Pro War, they are seen as globalists, they are seen corporate shills. These sort of Republicans have troubles in the midwest and the more populist anti globalist better trade deal sort of candidate Trump was able to compete. Trump has rewritten the map and he has shown Republicans a new way and path to electoral victory. Which means the more hawkish globalist corporate Republicans are becoming a thing of the past. This midwest path is buying some more time but inevitably I do think the demographics will pose some problems. But it's a ying yang sort of deal, in one demographic you may lose votes but in other you pick them right up like what we saw this last time around. But if Texas becomes a legitimate purple state, I just don't see how the R's can make that ground back up, unless they somehow turn the midwest from purple to red. Bush and Rubio earned their reps as corporate shills but no one is perfect. I was merely noting that they see this problem/opportunity and tried to address it. It will be a bad day if the Dem socialist movement that is rising wins. The Rs sit on a knife edge now demographically and if they can’t make it shift, it will get ugly in a hurry, as you accurately note with respect to Texas. Edited February 7, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Wow. Racist much? Why is everything skin color to you leftists? It's 2019. Maybe you should drop your excessive need to label and qualify people specifically and exclusively on how they look. Brutal. That's not to mention that all of the "Republican" faces have two eyes. They're clearly discriminating against Rep. Crenshaw, who only has one eye. Why does the left hate disabled people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Bush and Rubio earned their reps as corporate shills but no one is perfect. I was merely noting that they see this problem/opportunity and tried to address it. It will be a bad day if the Dem socialist movement that is rising wins. The Rs sit on a knife edge now demographically and if they can’t make it shift, it will get ugly in a hurry, as you accurately note with respect to Texas. For the record, I wanted Rubio to win. I thought he had mild compassionate manner that could have won over some moderates in the middle even though he was pretty staunchly conservative on most issues. I'm just making an observation of how I believe some in base view him. Plus they hate his immigration stance, they butchered him for the same things that Trump is now supporting. If you really think about it, what Trump is proposing is essentially the Gang of 8 Bill that Rubio was crucified for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Magox said: For the record, I wanted Rubio to win. I thought he had mild compassionate manner that could have won over some moderates in the middle even though he was pretty staunchly conservative on most issues. I'm just making an observation of how I believe some in base view him. Plus they hate his immigration stance, they butchered him for the same things that Trump is now supporting. If you really think about it, what Trump is proposing is essentially the Gang of 8 Bill that Rubio was crucified for. (as an aside) Pay attention to how he responds to you. It'll be a slide or nonsensical or a sidestep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Magox said: For the record, I wanted Rubio to win. I thought he had mild compassionate manner that could have won over some moderates in the middle even though he was pretty staunchly conservative on most issues. I'm just making an observation of how I believe some in base view him. Plus they hate his immigration stance, they butchered him for the same things that Trump is now supporting. If you really think about it, what Trump is proposing is essentially the Gang of 8 Bill that Rubio was crucified for. Huge Rubio fan. If Christie has turned his buzzsaw on Trump, Rubio might have won. He just couldn’t recover from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Join the discussion. Republican strategists recognize this as an issue, whether you want to or not. The Ds play the race card in a horrible way and the Rs are losing the demographic shift. I’d like them not to. But let’s name call: That goes somewhere productive. I don't give a crap who recognizes it as an issue. It's an issue because lazy people make it an issue. If you think Congress must "look" like America, then let's have that discussion. If you want Congress to "look" like America, then why doesn't your emoticons of Dems show more homeless people? They certainlyi ensure there are enough of them living on their streets. And how about drug addicts? There are more homeless people and drug addicts than there will EVER be transgender third graders, yet it's the third grader who gets the new bathroom. THAT is the Dem America. Why don't they elect more cancer survivors, or obese 7-11 clerks who consider the Slurpee to be a major food group? Why don't they elect more people who are hair follicle-challenged? How about a few from the southern states who still hold the dream that one day their single-wide will be a double-wide? How about more mentally handicapped? How about more wheel-chair bound? But no. Skin color and gender. The same damn things we're told should NOT matter when we make a choice. If you genuinely want Congress to look like America, try not to be so divisive about it. There's more to this country than skin color and gender, but you have to want to see it first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Quote The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee FollowFollow @TheBabylonBee Southern Poverty Law Center Adds Itself To List Of Hate Groups https://babylonbee.com/news/southern-poverty-law-center-adds-list-hate-groups … ................Real humor is always based in Truth . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It’s a great site, not sure whether to laugh or cry over evangelical jabs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Quote Jennifer Medina @jennymedina FollowFollow @jennymedina Over 1,000 Hate Groups Are Now Active in United States, Civil Rights Group Says , Take a guess who the vaguely referenced 'civil Rights group is....................................That's right .......the incredibly biased SPLC Must be bill time .............they are throwing on a few more Americans who disagree with them into the "Hate' List They are documented scum. Reminder: ....................I guess the NYT doesn't care who they reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 STACY MCCAIN: Another Dot on the ‘Hate Map:’ Why is the SPLC smearing so many conservative groups? Because they’re a Democratic Super-PAC masquerading as a human rights organization, with the help of a complicit media. FTA: Whether through laziness or sympathy for the SPLC’s left-wing agenda, few journalists ever carefully scrutinize the list of U.S. “hate groups” that are allegedly now at an all-time high. For example, among the 17 “Anti-Immigrant Hate Groups” on the SPLC’s map are Pro English — because it’s “hate” to encourage Americans to learn the English language, apparently — and Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC), whose president William Gheen has emphatically denounced the SPLC’s label. While “no evidence exists that anyone in our organization has ever engaged in racism, hate, or violence against minorities,” Gheen wrote in a 2014 letter to the SPLC, the “hate group” listing was “directly encouraging people to threaten violence against me and my family.” The 100 “Anti-Muslim Hate Groups” listed by the SPLC include 47 separate listings for local affiliates of ACT for America, a group headed by Brigitte Gabriel, a Lebanese immigrant and author of the 2006 bestseller Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America. Whatever one thinks of Ms. Gabriel or her group, what purpose is served by depicting ACT for America not as one “hate group,” but 47? Obviously, the SPLC does this to pad its numbers — to inflate the “hate,” so to speak — and any intelligent person must doubt whether any actual menace to Muslims is posed by Ms. Gabriel’s admirers in towns like Oostburg, Wisconsin, or Cape Cod, Massachusetts, each of which has a dot on the SPLC’s map. Remember this the next time that you read the fake "Hate groups on the rise" narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) #JOURNALISM: Related: Also: . . Edited February 25, 2019 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Maryland Democratic party https://news.yahoo.com/calls-growing-maryland-lawmaker-resign-over-slur-192008733.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 AS A LEGENDARY COMMUNITY ORGANIZER ADVISES, PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: Judeo-Christian Group Sues Michigan for ‘Orwellian’ Witch Hunt Based on SPLC Labels. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The federal government is racist. Want a government job? Better not be white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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