The Media's Portrayal of Trump and His Presidency

[RochesterRob]

11 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Do you think it is improper to start a thread entitled,   'Can Anyone Help DR'?

 

Not to dump it all here, but imo the guy is either:

 

- being paid to post and control the narrative here; or

- has become so invested that he has lost objectivity and reason; or

- drug crazed; or

- mentally damaged, perhaps from witnessing something traumatic, like Lisa Page's texts or altered 302's; or

- actually mentally unstable and way beyond obsessive. 

 

Is there a clinical disorder where the patient has developed such a fear of losing his 'followers' that he snaps?  DR seems to think that his congregation is not able to hear my words without his explanations.  I have become the devil to the ears/eyes of his followers around here apparently.  They need protecting for they are so impressionable.  Even his disciples must wonder a bit when the thought leader seems to have snapped. 

 

Can anyone help DR?  Seriously?

 

  Mental projection at its most obviousness.  I am sure that if you tell them it is an emergency the doctor would see you this afternoon.

[DC Tom]

25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Details! 

 

He also spied on US citizens, abused the IRS powers to go after his enemies, and ... oh, ran an illegal political blackmail ring for (at least) most of his second term. 

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

 

Facts aren't their friends. Only feelz are. It's all they can argue. 

 

And it's why they lose. 

 

But he never said he'd lock them up.

 

You know who else never threatened to lock up his political opponents, but just went ahead and did it?

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, GG said:

 

Such as what?   Publicly calling out his critics?

 

He's been doing that since the early '80s, and he was a media darling at the time?  Why wasn't he Hitler when he lambasted every GOP candidate running in '16?

 

No - I'm strictly talking about publicly insinuating his political opponents should be jailed. He's accused his political opponents of treason over 2 dozen times.

[Bob in Mich]

4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Go ahead.  Start a thread.  Just another thread for you to get a butt kicking in.

 

Still awaiting your answer, Rob.  You are unable to answer the only question I have asked you but I got my butt kicked?   lol   

 

Sorry Rob, you are making less and less sense in not just admitting the similarities that I pointed out are indeed valid.  It won't hurt you to admit there are similarities.   Rational discussions often include conceding points.  Have you ever seen that done?

[DC Tom]

17 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Can anyone help DR?  Seriously?

 

 

Maybe he should try pot?

 

Or maybe he already does...

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Still awaiting your answer, Rob. 

 

"WHERE ARE THE TAPES?!"

 

(Again, both Rob and GG have answered Bob several times. He ignores it... because Bob is stoned).

[Warren Zevon]

Bob I am sorry for doxxing you!

 

 

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Still awaiting your answer, Rob.  You are unable to answer the only question I have asked you but I got my butt kicked?   lol   

 

Sorry Rob, you are making less and less sense in not just admitting the similarities that I pointed out are indeed valid.  

 

They're not.  Here's some reading explaining why:

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-ebook/dp/B07XD76H41/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3RK6EJPT8786J&keywords=shirer+rise+and+fall+of+the+third+reich&qid=1575397980&sprefix=shirer%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Diary-William-L-Shirer-ebook/dp/B07NMFRXLG/ref=pd_sim_351_3/145-7403406-1384662?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07NMFRXLG&pd_rd_r=847a9cfe-ff99-4ec0-9ca0-ed3bb773ee6a&pd_rd_w=sCxNL&pd_rd_wg=jjBDx&pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&pf_rd_r=BDJ2Z2XAMW18QJXY1PK3&psc=1&refRID=BDJ2Z2XAMW18QJXY1PK3

https://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-1930-1940-Twentieth-Century-Journey-ebook/dp/B07H17VXRG/ref=pd_sim_351_2/145-7403406-1384662?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07H17VXRG&pd_rd_r=72baa488-5316-43a2-9969-9d30de7bb946&pd_rd_w=6FTE2&pd_rd_wg=x9xNe&pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&pf_rd_r=0TG2QQR7E2SQN6Z7KJ8E&psc=1&refRID=0TG2QQR7E2SQN6Z7KJ8E

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Third-Reich-History-Book-ebook/dp/B0023SDQGW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=third+reich+trilogy&qid=1575398033&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002IPZJ60?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_pwh_calw_1&storeType=ebooks

https://www.amazon.com/Wages-Destruction-Making-Breaking-Economy-ebook/dp/B008DR6YXO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tooze&qid=1575398056&s=digital-text&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-German-Adolf-Hitler-ebook/dp/B00OZXQZ66/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1I183DZWPEHYM&keywords=mein+kampf&qid=1575398080&s=digital-text&sprefix=mein+ka%2Cdigital-text%2C195&sr=1-6

https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-1936-1945-Nemesis-Ian-Kershaw-ebook/dp/B01AVKWG50/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&pd_rd_i=B01AVKWG50&pd_rd_r=27a30326-83c1-4a36-8f69-59d6c566d2c8&pd_rd_w=0c8uc&pd_rd_wg=h0MYd&pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&pf_rd_r=KTCN0DHNDA9ZJK0B1R6P&qid=1575398129&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182

https://www.amazon.com/Third-Reich-New-History/dp/080909326X/ref=sr_1_19?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&qid=1575398180&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182&sr=1-19

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Third-Reich-Germany-1933-1945-ebook/dp/B01356ETXO/ref=sr_1_27?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&qid=1575398180&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182&sr=1-27

 

Let me know when you finish that list, I'll suggest more.  But until you do, shut the ***** up, you idiot.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

They're not.  Here's some reading explaining why:

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-ebook/dp/B07XD76H41/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3RK6EJPT8786J&keywords=shirer+rise+and+fall+of+the+third+reich&qid=1575397980&sprefix=shirer%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Diary-William-L-Shirer-ebook/dp/B07NMFRXLG/ref=pd_sim_351_3/145-7403406-1384662?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07NMFRXLG&pd_rd_r=847a9cfe-ff99-4ec0-9ca0-ed3bb773ee6a&pd_rd_w=sCxNL&pd_rd_wg=jjBDx&pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&pf_rd_r=BDJ2Z2XAMW18QJXY1PK3&psc=1&refRID=BDJ2Z2XAMW18QJXY1PK3

https://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-1930-1940-Twentieth-Century-Journey-ebook/dp/B07H17VXRG/ref=pd_sim_351_2/145-7403406-1384662?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07H17VXRG&pd_rd_r=72baa488-5316-43a2-9969-9d30de7bb946&pd_rd_w=6FTE2&pd_rd_wg=x9xNe&pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&pf_rd_r=0TG2QQR7E2SQN6Z7KJ8E&psc=1&refRID=0TG2QQR7E2SQN6Z7KJ8E

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Third-Reich-History-Book-ebook/dp/B0023SDQGW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=third+reich+trilogy&qid=1575398033&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002IPZJ60?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_pwh_calw_1&storeType=ebooks

https://www.amazon.com/Wages-Destruction-Making-Breaking-Economy-ebook/dp/B008DR6YXO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tooze&qid=1575398056&s=digital-text&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-German-Adolf-Hitler-ebook/dp/B00OZXQZ66/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1I183DZWPEHYM&keywords=mein+kampf&qid=1575398080&s=digital-text&sprefix=mein+ka%2Cdigital-text%2C195&sr=1-6

https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-1936-1945-Nemesis-Ian-Kershaw-ebook/dp/B01AVKWG50/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&pd_rd_i=B01AVKWG50&pd_rd_r=27a30326-83c1-4a36-8f69-59d6c566d2c8&pd_rd_w=0c8uc&pd_rd_wg=h0MYd&pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&pf_rd_r=KTCN0DHNDA9ZJK0B1R6P&qid=1575398129&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182

https://www.amazon.com/Third-Reich-New-History/dp/080909326X/ref=sr_1_19?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&qid=1575398180&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182&sr=1-19

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Third-Reich-Germany-1933-1945-ebook/dp/B01356ETXO/ref=sr_1_27?crid=335M2BYLJ9OH&keywords=the+third+reich&qid=1575398180&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sprefix=the+third+reich%2Cdigital-text%2C182&sr=1-27

 

Let me know when you finish that list, I'll suggest more.  But until you do, shut the ***** up, you idiot.

 

You didn't go point by point through his screed! 

 

Thus, it's invalid to Bob. 

 

So... 

 

"WHERE ARE THE TAPES?! I DEMAND TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW!"

 

[Bob in Mich]

10 minutes ago, Azalin said:

 

 

You suggest that someone else may be drug crazed?

 

Bravo, sir. Bravo!

 

I am a medical cannabis patient.  I have legitimate medical need (spine), as verified by at least 10 doctors now as well as diagnostics such as x-rays, mri's, and emg's. 

 

If you don't believe in pain medicine, then I would say fine, please don't ever use it.   If you believe in using pain medicine, then trying to hold the moral high ground on a medical cannabis pain patient is misguided, at best. 

 

So, what are your thoughts?  All pain medicine users are to be ridiculed?  They are just weak?  Or, just patients that have transitioned from opiate dependence to cannabis?  Where is that moral high ground to you pal?

[row_33]

to Bob, you don't count as a fisherman unless you've pulled in a 600-pound Hitler

 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

I am a medical cannabis patient.  I have legitimate medical need (spine), as verified by at least 10 doctors now as well as diagnostics such as x-rays, mri's, and emg's. 

 

If you don't believe in pain medicine, then I would say fine, please don't ever use it.   If you believe in using pain medicine, then trying to hold the moral high ground on a medical cannabis pain patient is misguided, at best. 

 

So, what are your thoughts?  All pain medicine users are to be ridiculed?  They are just weak?  Or, just patients that have transitioned from opiate dependence to cannabis?  Where is that moral high ground to you pal?

 

Now you did it. 

 

You angered the stoner.  

[Azalin]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

I am a medical cannabis patient.  I have legitimate medical need (spine), as verified by at least 10 doctors now as well as diagnostics such as x-rays, mri's, and emg's. 

 

If you don't believe in pain medicine, then I would say fine, please don't ever use it.   If you believe in using pain medicine, then trying to hold the moral high ground on a medical cannabis pain patient is misguided, at best. 

 

So, what are your thoughts?  All pain medicine users are to be ridiculed?  They are just weak?  Or, just patients that have transitioned from opiate dependence to cannabis?  Where is that moral high ground to you pal?

 

I'm not ridiculing pain medications of any kind. I am ridiculing you.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Azalin said:

 

I'm not ridiculing pain medications of any kind. I am ridiculing you.

 

He's not smart enough to discern the difference. 

 

Why? 

 

BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER, AZALIN! 

[DC Tom]

Just now, Bob in Mich said:

 

I am a medical cannabis patient.  I have legitimate medical need (spine), as verified by at least 10 doctors now as well as diagnostics such as x-rays, mri's, and emg's. 

 

If you don't believe in pain medicine, then I would say fine, please don't ever use it.   If you believe in using pain medicine, then trying to hold the moral high ground on a medical cannabis pain patient is misguided, at best. 

 

So, what are your thoughts?  All pain medicine users are to be ridiculed?  They are just weak?  Or, just patients that have transitioned from opiate dependence to cannabis?  Where is that moral high ground to you pal?

 

I have a ruptured lumbar disc pressing on my sciatic, a bad hip, torn hamstring, and nerve damage in my right leg.  I've refused all prescriptions, my pain management is deep breathing.  So yeah, I'll take that moral high ground:

 

Nut up, you stoner buttercup.

[row_33]

On 2/23/2017 at 9:17 AM, Justice said:

This presidency is too much to stay retired. I'm sure you guys are pissed I'm back, but I can't resist. This is some made for tv entertainment right here.

 

You want to talk about the media's portrayal of Trump, but what about how Donald and his administration have portrayed themselves?

 

1. He hastily rushed out a sloppily done EO on a Muslim ban. He calls it a Muslim ban and at the same time says it isn't.

 

2. They referred to a terrorist attack in Atlanta on at least three different occasions.

 

3. KellyAnn Conway said there was a massacre in Bowling Green.

 

4. He insinuated there was a terrorist attack in Sweden. Whether he did that on purpose or not is irrelevant.

 

5. He had numerous opportunities to condemn antisemitism. He finally did, but he should've done it a while ago. Especially when asked about it by that Jewish journalist.

 

6. He spoke about himself at the CIA headquarters.

 

7. He falsely claimed he had the biggest inauguration turnout.

 

8. He falsely claimed he had the biggest victory in election history since Reagan.

 

9. He refuses to condemn Russia for interfering in the election.

 

10. He mishandled Flynn's situation, by taking too long to fire him.

 

11. He said he doesn't watch the fake news and at the same time he said he watches them all the time.

 

All this in one month. If he's being portrayed negatively by the media it's deservedly so.

 

welcome back, keep the candle burning.... 

 

[Azalin]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He's not smart enough to discern the difference. 

 

Why? 

 

BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER, AZALIN! 

 

Scheisse! My cover is blown!

[GG]

12 minutes ago, Gary Busey said:

 

No - I'm strictly talking about publicly insinuating his political opponents should be jailed. He's accused his political opponents of treason over 2 dozen times.

 

So you do admit that you can apply Stoner Bob's "points" to other politicians, because Trump has been accused of treason by his political opponents many more times in the last 3 years.  

[row_33]

Just now, Azalin said:

 

Scheisse! My cover is blown!

 

no soup for you

 

[DC Tom]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You didn't go point by point through his screed! 

 

Thus, it's invalid to Bob. 

 

So... 

 

"WHERE ARE THE TAPES?! I DEMAND TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW!"

 

 

That's one half of one of my two bookshelves on the subject.  

 

Side note: I found a book this weekend at a used book store, about the use of "atomic power" in warfare.  Yes, I picked it up, because it was written by one of Leslie Groves' subordinates, and dated July 1945.  Yep, the official report on the Manhattan Project, by the makers of the first atomic bomb, written before anyone had even tested one.  How awesome a historical find is that?