Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 48 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Well, Trump said would be north of 4% no problemo did he not? maybe even 5 to 6% if i remember correctly Yeah, you'd almost think that the Federal Reserve stepped in and jacked up interests rates specifically to prevent that from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Context. What Trump says has ZERO, and I mean ZERO to do wit Obama..so explain to me the context of Trump implementing a tax cut a year and declaring this Quote So we're at 3.3 percent GDP. I see no reason why we don't go to 4 percent, 5 percent, and even 6 percent." Lets not forget the 3.3% was before his policies really took effect and most would agree should be assisgned to the previous admins.. and we are below that now. But somehow the statement above is related to Obama and context two years later ..how???????? Argue your boys record .or are you afraid to do that? https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/trump-defies-data-with-6-percent-gdp-growth-forecast.html 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Yeah, you'd almost think that the Federal Reserve stepped in and jacked up interests rates specifically to prevent that from happening. Yep , the guy appointed by Trump actively worked to make the economy falter so Trump would look bad. Yep, that sounds about right!!! Edited February 28, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yep , the guy appointed by Trump actively worked to make the economy falter so Trump would look bad. Yep, that sounds about right!!! That's not what I said, but you go with the dumbassery. It's working for you today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Just now, Koko78 said: That's not what I said, but you go with the dumbassery. It's working for you today. then explain what you meant Okay, i did misread your comment..my bad. Edited February 28, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: then explain what you meant Okay, i did misread your comment..my bad. They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line. I agree, as stated above i misinterpreted your comments..my apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: What Trump says has ZERO, and I mean ZERO to do wit Obama..so explain to me the context of Trump implementing a tax cut a year and declaring this Lets not forget the 3.3% was before his policies really took effect and most would agree should be assisgned to the previous admins.. and we are below that now. But somehow the statement above is related to Obama and context two years later ..how???????? Argue your boys record .or are you afraid to do that? Discuss honestly. You know damn well that 2 years doesn't equal 8 years and without comparison (context) the figures don't mean jackshit. We all know that the economy is much improved with the increased % in the workforce, the fact that there are more jobs than people looking and the increase in wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Discuss honestly. You know damn well that 2 years doesn't equal 8 years and without comparison (context) the figures don't mean jackshit. We all know that the economy is much improved with the increased % in the workforce, the fact that there are more jobs than people looking and the increase in wages. again, to my point..that is an argument we can have..and you made it without referencing Obama! Thats all I ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 1:40 PM, Koko78 said: I don't see how that was 'dumbing down' the discussion for Trump (other than it was a HuffPo piece, and they're dipschiffs with a mandate to attack Trump regardless of reality). He wasn't wrong. People forget Trump has been involved in negotiating and signing complex contracts for decades. Yeah, and then not honoring them... maybe it was because those contracts were just to complex for him to understand that he was supposed to pay people/small businesses back the amount he committed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: I haven't yet seen anyone say "Did better than expected." Outlets seem to be going way out of their way to make this seem negative. When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Yeah, and then not honoring them... maybe it was because those contracts were just to complex for him to understand that he was supposed to pay people/small businesses back the amount he committed Too. You're like a little lapdog that nips at heels. 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. He won the election because of the SCOTUS nominations coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Too. You're like a little lapdog that nips at heels. Wow. You got me on a typo. Apparently that typo somehow proves your point... Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. First, I'm glad you're down here. More voices are needed in the dungeon - especially those who present differing points of view. Second, I'd argue the bolded is not the primary reason why Trump was elected. The primary reason was because he was not Hillary Clinton. A secondary reason was because he, as Michael Moore so eloquently put it in the video below, was "the biggest ***** you ever recorded in human history". People understood exactly who and what Trump was when they elected him. Which is why the normal smear attacks of "racists/sexist/Islamophobic" which works to sink 9 out of 10 politicians had no impact on his numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Wow. You got me on a typo. Apparently that typo somehow proves your point... Congratulations. The misuse of "to" was not the point of my response. The nipping at the heels was a reference to your weak arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Koko78 said: They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line. Federal Interest rates are still incredibly low when you look at the span of interest rates over the last 60 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/2015/fed-funds-rate-historical-chart Shouldn't Trump be held to his own standards as he publicly represents them? Or are we supposed to assume there was an unsaid asterisk at the end of his statement of "...as long as the Fed doesn't raise interest rates."...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: The misuse of "to" was not the point of my response. The nipping at the heels was a reference to your weak arguments. Yes, using a nebulous insult calling me a lapdog nipping at heals is clearly a much stronger argument than my weaker argument of bringing up something material and substantial that resurfaced about Trump and his business practices just yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: Yes, using a nebulous insult calling me a lapdog nipping at heals is clearly a much stronger argument than my weaker argument of bringing up something material and substantial that resurfaced about Trump and his business practices just yesterday. Heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, TPS said: It's very easy to find that... Fox News I don't usually check comedy sites for news, though. 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Well, Trump said would be north of 4% no problemo did he not? maybe even 5 to 6% if i remember correctly Who the ***** cares? Trump says lots of things, usually wrong. I don't check comedy twitter feeds for news either. 28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. He has no economic acumen as a businessman. Anyone with half a brain has known that since the 90s. He went bankrupt in the casino business. If you think it's fair to present economic data in this manner - as dismal news based on what a failed casino owner thinks, even though it's better than what economists predicted - then you are the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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