Gray Beard Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. I was thinking that in many other languages the adjective comes after the noun, which is why in French NATO is abbreviated OTAN, because it refers to an organization and all the other words are adjectives. Has anyone on this board ever brought up the fact that "BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO" is a complete sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. Excellent recovery ... well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Excellent recovery ... well played!He really sured up his point there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Pacifically speaking, I've enjoyed the irony. Thanks. PS Schwartz was my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Saban, may be 2nd cousin but more like a practical son to Lou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Schwartz #1 Wade #2 (because of his age only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary. How weird is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I believe you mean prodigal sonThank you Mark and Reverend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I vote no to any of the prodigals. New blood, younger than 50 is needed. Though, if I was water boarded to make a choice: Wade. The Particle Sun thing reminds me of story a nurse told me: The young Mom just delivered her baby. She overheard the Doctors talking about the presence of meconium. She was so overblown by the sound of that, she named the baby Meconium.** ** at the click thru: meconium is fecal matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Wade/Schwartz combining for almost 80% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Wade/Schwartz combining for almost 80% 80% of a sun's particles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. My theory is you meant Prodigal Son but because you apparently have a less than firm grasp of the English language and its grammatical structure, it became Particle Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 80% of a sun's particles? wade 60% jim 20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 wade 60% jim 20% The Bills really should interview Wade. He would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 jesus christ, it's ihlarious to see who intentionally spells things wrong and who doesn't. it makes me want to slit my wrists, that'd be one helll of a womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'm astounded at the level of scholarship here. Someone worked out that the Aramaic words for "particle sun" and "prodigal son" sound alike, so there's a biblical reference. Amazing. If we could stop talking about this it would be a mute point. But it doesn't really matter so it's moot. I learn so darned much on this board, I'm amazed I can still think at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 ...personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I have to hand it to 4mer. One little hook in the thread title, and he's reeling them in. That's some mighty fine trolling. Schwartz for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 "Particle sun" lmao 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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