DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 But isn't that kinda what we want to see from Tyrod? If he's a Franchise qb, he should evaluate the players around him. Brady won SBs with David Patten and David Givens. Must posters killed EJ for his Jacksonville game where he had Hogan and Woods as starting Wrs. I like a lot about Tyrod but he has had some games that look like a high school passing offense. How can anyone want to pay huge money to a guy who struggles at times to get to 150 yards in a league where guys are passing for 4,000 yards on average? The great thing is he has 13 more games. But based on his first 16 games, I don't think he is a franchise qb. I hope he lights it up in the next 13. This ^ He's still playing with NFL recievers. Look around at other rosters, aside from the elite WR's no one has guys who are much better than what we have. I wouldn't expect 300 yard passing games without a real number one, but I also don't think it should be impossible to pass for over 150 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 We NEED to win next week though. 100% CANNOT let a Bradyless Pats win 4 in a row. We also need to see this thing called consistency and momentum people on other teams always talk about. Who cares if they win 4 in a row? They will likely win the division regardless so it technically doesn't make a difference if they were to go undefeated. Consistency would be lovely, i'm guessing it will continue to be a shortcoming in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 This week is huge. I'd be willing to wager most of us would have taken 2-2 with the 2 losses being by less than a TD each when the schedule was released. However, a loss all but eliminates us from any sort of division contention (not that we aren't in a precarious position already). This ^ He's still playing with NFL recievers. Look around at other rosters, aside from the elite WR's no one has guys who are much better than what we have. I wouldn't expect 300 yard passing games without a real number one, but I also don't think it should be impossible to pass for over 150 yards. Our WRs are comfortably in the bottom 3rd of the league, remove Sammy and I don't see anyone lining up worse WRs than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 This week is huge. I'd be willing to wager most of us would have taken 2-2 with the 2 losses being by less than a TD each when the schedule was released. However, a loss all but eliminates us from any sort of division contention (not that we aren't in a precarious position already). Our WRs are comfortably in the bottom 3rd of the league, remove Sammy and I don't see anyone lining up worse WRs than us. The Rams and Seahawks have really bad Wrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) This week is huge. I'd be willing to wager most of us would have taken 2-2 with the 2 losses being by less than a TD each when the schedule was released. However, a loss all but eliminates us from any sort of division contention (not that we aren't in a precarious position already). Our WRs are comfortably in the bottom 3rd of the league, remove Sammy and I don't see anyone lining up worse WRs than us. Remove most teams top WR, and it's not pretty though. Plus tight ends practically count as WR's these days, and Charles Clay is making big bucks. Edited September 28, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The Rams and Seahawks have really bad Wrs. I'd easily take Baldwin / Graham / Lockett over our guys. You are right though, the Rams suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'd easily take Baldwin / Graham / Lockett over our guys. You are right though, the Rams suck. WR is so difficult to judge in today's NFL imo due to the QB position. Wouldn't Robert Woods probably be viewed much differently if he played with Russell Wilson in a couple Super Bowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'd easily take Baldwin / Graham / Lockett over our guys. You are right though, the Rams suck. Baldwin was an UDFA and Graham (one of my favorite players in the league) is coming off a major injury. I'd argue that Russell Wilson is a major reason why Baldwin is good. And the 49ers have a terrible group as well. Either way, in today's NFL, your leading wr shouldn't have 118 yards through 3 games. WR is so difficult to judge in today's NFL imo due to the QB position. Wouldn't Robert Woods probably be viewed much differently if he played with Russell Wilson in a couple Super Bowls? That's a really good comparison. Woods is. Sry, very similar to Baldwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 This week is huge. I'd be willing to wager most of us would have taken 2-2 with the 2 losses being by less than a TD each when the schedule was released. However, a loss all but eliminates us from any sort of division contention (not that we aren't in a precarious position already). Our WRs are comfortably in the bottom 3rd of the league, remove Sammy and I don't see anyone lining up worse WRs than us. Well that is kinda the problem isnt it.....you CANT take Watkins from the WR corps who when healthy is one of the best WR's in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'm one of those guys with a low post count who came out of the woodwork. Yes, I watched last season. I saw a QB who could make deep throws and plays with his legs. I also saw a guy who struggled reading defenses, throwing over the middle, feeling pressure in the pocket, and going through all his progressions. I liked what I saw from him last season. I believed that if he continued to improve he would be a very good QB. My issue is that I haven't seen improvement in any of these areas over the first three games. In fact it seems like he has regressed as a passer. I simply found two games out of the three with just over 100 yards passing to be concerning. Yes, I understand that was the " game plan" but TT also did little as far as being a passer to convince me he can win games as a passer. I know some disagree, but there will be games that need to be won through the air. Throwing the deep ball with no underneath passing game is not going to work consistently either. Meh, your ok. Dont take it personal that comment is aimed at those who refuse to acknowledge the things he does good while exaggerating the negative to the point where the whole narrative is "he cant do it get him out of here" I dont think the situation is there yet. I should have been more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I feel bad for people like him and Sully . . . or are they one and the same. No Sully gets paid to be miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 If you have not made TT posts prior then I apologize...I am not going back to look. but Are you saying our QB is "stupid"? That was a pretty good team we beat yesterday that was at nearly full strength while we were not Do you think it was a fluke? 14 is not a score to brag about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 If we win Sunday, I predict a 5-2 record going into the next matchup with NE* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) I'm one of those guys with a low post count who came out of the woodwork. Yes, I watched last season. I saw a QB who could make deep throws and plays with his legs. I also saw a guy who struggled reading defenses, throwing over the middle, feeling pressure in the pocket, and going through all his progressions. I liked what I saw from him last season. I believed that if he continued to improve he would be a very good QB. My issue is that I haven't seen improvement in any of these areas over the first three games. In fact it seems like he has regressed as a passer. I simply found two games out of the three with just over 100 yards passing to be concerning. Yes, I understand that was the " game plan" but TT also did little as far as being a passer to convince me he can win games as a passer. I know some disagree, but there will be games that need to be won through the air. Throwing the deep ball with no underneath passing game is not going to work consistently either. Hard to argue with this very thoughtful and realistic perspective. Good work DF1O5. That is all Only three games and we have only two questions about the team: Offense? and Defense? Edited October 1, 2016 by CSBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 TT is having difficulty sustaining drives and finishing the games. He has not been able to close out the games and run out the clock. Our 3rd down conversions are very poor. The game comes down to how much McCoy can do damage on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 TT is having difficulty sustaining drives and finishing the games. He has not been able to close out the games and run out the clock. Our 3rd down conversions are very poor. The game comes down to how much McCoy can do damage on the ground This is a very likely scenario. Although maybe TT can lean on R. Woods and get something going? Some games he has been open a lot. So open TT could have been arrested for reckless quarterbacking. Still only a misdemeanor in most states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Until we have consistency and start beating good teams on the road we will continue to be bottom feeders. This team is heading into 17 years of no playoffs for a reason- years of bad HC hires, poor drafting etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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