What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[billsfan1959]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

How can you trust a report at this point with the backtracking Texas officials have already done multiple times in regard to this shooting?

 

I have no idea why anyone, puts any level of faith in any of the reports coming out. Maybe we could take a novel approach and wait until all the facts are sorted out before placing blame or exonerating?

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

It’s been reported no armed teachers at this school & there was no SRO there. 
 

Yes, Texas teachers CAN carry but it’s up to each district. Ones who have, there’s never been a school shooting. Not in over 20 years. Seems like a damn good deterrent. 
 

Google “armed teacher” signs. The Buffalo murderer even wrote... he assumed there would be no one carrying at the supermarket. 
 

In this case, deterrence can work. It’s proven. 

Thanks! I’ll have to get on my laptop. 

 

you keep ignore facts. Why is that? 
 

 

 

The kids got in because a teacher heard the truck crash and she propped the door open when she went out to see what happened. Thats how this lined up.  We need security at the schools but also need to put in some laws to stop insane people from getting guns.  The only way is mental health exams for buyers. Will it stop all of them? Probably not but at least it'll be better. We can't have some classroom each year winning the lucky lottery of being eliminated by a shooter. 

[BillStime]

22 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

The kids got in because a teacher heard the truck crash and she propped the door open when she went out to see what happened. Thats how this lined up.  We need security at the schools but also need to put in some laws to stop insane people from getting guns.  The only way is mental health exams for buyers. Will it stop all of them? Probably not but at least it'll be better. We can't have some classroom each year winning the lucky lottery of being eliminated by a shooter. 

I can’t buy Sudafed without my license being scanned and data logged and can only buy so much Sudafed every week/month due to federal regulations.

 

But I guess it’s cool to walk into Oasis Outback to buy a semi-automatic rifle and then return the next day to buy 375 rounds of ammunition, and then again two days later to pick up a Daniel Defense AR-style rifle and it’s totally legal.

 

If only we could do something about this but no - the answer is put more guns on the street and arm teachers - who better not say the word gay.

 

How F up is that?

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

HUMILIATION REQUIRES A SENSE OF SHAME: 

 

Sen. Klobuchar Humiliates Herself With Stupid Gun Control Talking Point.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/05/27/sen-klobuchar-humiliates-herself-with-stupid-gun-control-talking-point-n1601416

 

 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, 716er said:

 

Hover curser over user name and click the big Ignore button.

 

We need to have Scott work on the feature for mobile devices.  

[B-Man]

 

 

No, Anti-Gunners: Examples of Inept Policing Are Not Arguments for More Gun Control

 

 

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/05/27/no-anti-gunners-examples-of-inept-policing-are-not-arguments-for-more-gun-control-n570957

 

 

[Tiberius]

Ya, force the kids at gun point to learn about Civil Rights and to wear masks! 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

It's too defensive to arm the whole society. We need to be proactive. Start draining the swamp of guns. We should have a peaceful society, not one where guns are the number one killers of our children. 

 

 

So your only solution is to get rid of all guns?  That should take about 1,500 years.  You said we need a peaceful society.  Guns do not make up society people do.  But guns are peaceful.  Mine are sitting locked away not bothering anyone as we speak. 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No, Anti-Gunners: Examples of Inept Policing Are Not Arguments for More Gun Control

 

 

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/05/27/no-anti-gunners-examples-of-inept-policing-are-not-arguments-for-more-gun-control-n570957

 

 

But why ban guns from NRA meeting when Trump is there?? What the heck? 

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

The kids got in because a teacher heard the truck crash and she propped the door open when she went out to see what happened. Thats how this lined up.  We need security at the schools but also need to put in some laws to stop insane people from getting guns.  The only way is mental health exams for buyers. Will it stop all of them? Probably not but at least it'll be better. We can't have some classroom each year winning the lucky lottery of being eliminated by a shooter. 

So you want to take people's guns away? 

[Chef Jim]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Ya, force the kids at gun point to learn about Civil Rights and to wear masks! 

 

 

 

Mmmhmmm this makes sense.  We don't want teachers to groom our kids mean we should fear they're going to kill them.  

[Tiberius]

 

[aristocrat]

16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But why ban guns from NRA meeting when Trump is there?? What the heck? 

So you want to take people's guns away? 

no I want psych evals for all buyers. All states have red flag laws and raise the age to 21

[Tiberius]

Just now, aristocrat said:

no I want psych evals for all buyers. All states have red flag laws and raise the age to 21

You want to take everyone's guns, then. How is that going to work? 

[aristocrat]

Just now, Tiberius said:

You want to take everyone's guns, then. How is that going to work? 

What?

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

What?

He’s being a troll. 

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

What?

That's what we get when ever we say any type of gun control, it gets turned into "you want to take our guns away" 

 

Stupid, right? 

3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

He’s being a troll. 

Just to prove a point 

[ArdmoreRyno]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

That's what we get when ever we say any type of gun control, it gets turned into "you want to take our guns away" 

 

Stupid, right? 

Just to prove a point 

Do you want to take AR platforms? Yes or no?

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Do you want to take AR platforms? Yes or no?

No, but victims of people that use those weapons should be able to sue the maker of the gun.  

 

 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Do you want to take AR platforms? Yes or no?

100%
 

Zero need.

 

Ask these parents and their kids:

 

Zoom in and look at those faces.

[B-Man]

 

NARRATIVE FAIL: White Supremacists Are NOT The Most Likely Mass Murderers

 

John Lott, the dispassionate social scientist and president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, has the details that the data reveal over at the Federalist . . .

In his Buffalo, New York speech last week following a mass shooting, President Biden showed he still has only two things on his mind regarding crime: guns and white supremacists.

 

No one can defend white supremacists. But with violent crime soaring and this latest attack in Buffalo, people want something done. Yet Biden’s agenda won’t make people safer. 

 

“Look, we’ve seen the mass shootings in Charleston, South Carolina; El Paso, Texas; in Pittsburgh. Last year in Atlanta. This week in Dallas, Texas, and now in Buffalo. In Buffalo, New York,” Biden said. “White supremacy is a poison. It’s a poison. It really is. Running through our body politic. And it’s been allowed to fester and grow right in front of our eyes. No more. I mean, no more.”

 

Of the 82 mass public shootings from January 1998 to May 2021, 9 percent have known or alleged ties to white supremacists, neo-Nazis, or anti-immigrant views.

 

Many of the anti-immigrant attackers, such as the Buffalo murderer, hold decidedly environmentalist views that are more in line with the Democrat agenda.

 

Other groups commit mass public shootings disproportionately more than whites do. While non-Middle Eastern whites make up about 64 percent of the population, they make up 58 percent of the mass public shooters. Another 9 percent are carried out by people of Middle Eastern origin, who make up only 0.4 percent of the country’s population. That makes Middle Easterners the most likely ethnic or racial group to carry out mass public shootings.

 

Blacks, Asians, and American Indians also commit these attacks at a slightly higher rate than their share of the population. Hispanics commit them at much lower rates (11 percent lower) than their share of the population.

 

Seventy-one percent of mass public shooters have no identifiable political views. But you would never know this from watching TV police dramas or listening to Biden’s constant claim that white supremacists pose the biggest threat of domestic terrorism.

 

What most Americans don’t realize is that less than 9% of violent crimes in America involve firearms. Going after guns, even in a perfect world, won’t prevent meaningful numbers of violent crimes.

 

After all, people walking the streets while on insane ‘affordable bail’ can still drive their SUVs through crowds of people, killing many. But they won’t get Joe Biden to visit the city, talk about the crime, the black supremacist driver, or the soft-on-crime policies that let Darrell Brooks out of jail on $1000 bond after he tried to kill someone by running them down with the same SUV.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/23/data-shows-white-supremacists-are-not-the-most-likely-mass-murderers/