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12 minutes ago, TH3 said:

only three were killed ... so....awesome? 

 

 

So what happened in Indiana was a good outcome because we don’t live in a fantasy world where everything can be perfectly scripted out.

 

Mass killers will continue to exist because the environment that spawns them will continue to exist. They will use long guns, pistols, cars, bombs, and any number of other devices to commit their crimes.

 

You can’t “ban” your way out of that reality. What you can do is enable law-abiding individuals to have a chance to assist.

 

That’s what happened in Indiana and it’s what happened in West Virginia recently.

 

Anyone suggesting that it would have been better to not have an armed “good samaritan” around is essentially stumping for a higher body count to support their political narrative.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/07/18/anti-gun-activist-rages-after-good-guy-with-a-gun-drops-mass-shooter-in-indiana-n596951

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In a world with zero bail laws, prosecutors who don’t prosecute, and cops who don’t protect civilians, if the idea that the average citizen is his own first responder really takes hold, that’s going to make it far more difficult for the gun-grabber community to sell the idea of “gun safety” through gun-free zones, waiting periods, magazine capacity limits and semi-auto firearm bans. They absolutely can’t have that happening.

 

What took place yesterday in that Indiana mall was the result of one man with a gun stopping a killer. While that certainly doesn’t happen in every similar situation, the infrequency doesn’t devalue the lives that were saved when it does.

 

And it demonstrates for more Americans, once again, that when seconds count, they are the people best able to defend themselves and save lives.

 

 

 

 

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JIM TREACHER: Libs Seethe After Good Guy with Gun Stops Bad Guy with Gun.

 

It never happens, and also it’s bad that it happened.

 

“It would be better if nobody committed murder at all, of course. But when someone stops a murderer before he can kill again, here’s the proper response: 

 

Thank you.”

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/libs-seethe-after-good-guy-with-gun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet Another Good-Guy-With-Gun Story - This Time in Missouri

By Susie Moore 

 

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2022/07/18/yet-another-good-guy-with-gun-story-this-time-in-missouri-n597036

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

JIM TREACHER: Libs Seethe After Good Guy with Gun Stops Bad Guy with Gun.

 

It never happens, and also it’s bad that it happened.

 

“It would be better if nobody committed murder at all, of course. But when someone stops a murderer before he can kill again, here’s the proper response: 

 

Thank you.”

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/libs-seethe-after-good-guy-with-gun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet Another Good-Guy-With-Gun Story - This Time in Missouri

By Susie Moore 

 

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2022/07/18/yet-another-good-guy-with-gun-story-this-time-in-missouri-n597036

 

 

 

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Yep. The lack of media attention on local news and radio has been noticeable. These outlets all read from the same script and that’s why public trust in them has diminished. 

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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:


Interesting that the “by other means” number is generally consistent across states. 

It’s not interesting or surprising in the least. What method would you guess most people think ( though not always correctly )  is the easiest? Fastest? Not to disparage anyone, but let’s be realistic here. Ending it all isn’t exactly an act of bravery. Jumping off a bridge may not seem appealing. Still, it’s no reason to restrict gun access of law abiding citizens. 

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4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s not interesting or surprising in the least. What method would you guess most people think ( though not always correctly )  is the easiest? Fastest? Not to disparage anyone, but let’s be realistic here. Ending it all isn’t exactly an act of bravery. Jumping off a bridge may not seem appealing. Still, it’s no reason to restrict gun access of law abiding citizens. 

 

Too bad. No one needs an AR-15.

 

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14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


Interesting that the “by other means” number is generally consistent across states. 

Interesting that…generally….red states lead the league in suicide rates and the commie libtard states have the lowest…

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5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

So what happened in Indiana was a good outcome because we don’t live in a fantasy world where everything can be perfectly scripted out.

 

Mass killers will continue to exist because the environment that spawns them will continue to exist. They will use long guns, pistols, cars, bombs, and any number of other devices to commit their crimes.

 

You can’t “ban” your way out of that reality. What you can do is enable law-abiding individuals to have a chance to assist.

 

That’s what happened in Indiana and it’s what happened in West Virginia recently.

 

Anyone suggesting that it would have been better to not have an armed “good samaritan” around is essentially stumping for a higher body count to support their political narrative.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/07/18/anti-gun-activist-rages-after-good-guy-with-a-gun-drops-mass-shooter-in-indiana-n596951

Only a diehard brainwashed cementhead would classify 3 innocent people dead a “good” outcome…

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Just to be clear….we are talking about lives “saved” after a shooter has already killed someone …right?

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On 7/18/2022 at 5:28 PM, TH3 said:

Only a diehard brainwashed cementhead would classify 3 innocent people dead a “good” outcome…

 

Just to be clear….we are talking about lives “saved” after a shooter has already killed someone …right?

 

You aren't very bright are you ?

 

You certainly can't read, this is just one of the responses that I gave. The shooting was not "good" but the result was  fortunately better than it might have been

 

On 7/18/2022 at 4:43 PM, B-Man said:

Libs Seethe After Good Guy with Gun Stops Bad Guy with Gun.

It never happens, and also it’s bad that it happened.

 

“It would be better if nobody committed murder at all, of course. But when someone stops a murderer before he can kill again, here’s the proper response: 

 

Thank you.”

 

 

 

 

BACK TO THE THREAD.

 

Watch: Armed ATF Agents Show up at Gun Owner's Home Unannounced, to Inspect Lawfully Purchased Guns

 

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https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2022/07/19/watch-armed-atf-agents-show-up-at-gun-owners-home-unannounced-to-inspect-lawfully-purchased-guns-n598051

 

 

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Police update timeline, say man took down Greenwood Park Mall shooter in just 15 seconds

 

We’re not hearing a lot about this “good guy with a gun” story in the mainstream media — the bigger news seems to be that this hero was carrying in a mall that was a gun-free zone. And if there were no guns at all … nobody would need one. We’re now learning that Eli Dicken managed to take down the Greenwood Park Mall shooter in just 15 seconds … not two minutes as previously reported. That’s pretty amazing.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/19/police-update-timeline-say-man-took-down-greenwood-park-mall-shooter-in-just-15-seconds/

 

 

Got right to work without hesitation, saving untold lives.

 

 

 

 

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On 7/18/2022 at 11:43 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

So what happened in Indiana was a good outcome because we don’t live in a fantasy world where everything can be perfectly scripted out.

 

Mass killers will continue to exist because the environment that spawns them will continue to exist. They will use long guns, pistols, cars, bombs, and any number of other devices to commit their crimes.

 

You can’t “ban” your way out of that reality. What you can do is enable law-abiding individuals to have a chance to assist.

 

That’s what happened in Indiana and it’s what happened in West Virginia recently.

 

Anyone suggesting that it would have been better to not have an armed “good samaritan” around is essentially stumping for a higher body count to support their political narrative.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/07/18/anti-gun-activist-rages-after-good-guy-with-a-gun-drops-mass-shooter-in-indiana-n596951

This won’t change until the left admits that criminals are actually bad people. The outrage over using the term “ Good Samaritan “ is laughable if it weren’t so sad. Even invoking scripture: imagine that! I wonder what their take would be on “ The Good Samaritan Doctor performed the abortion for free” or “ The Good Samaritan Attorney defended the murderer pro bono” 

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The outcome at the Greenwood Park Mall is more of a needle in a haystack . It would take a massive number of concealed carry in places that even now don't allow them to have any effect .  It's way too late to have the control like Japan here. If someone is not acting right here they need to be checked out for real is a step in the right direction.

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8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

This won’t change until the left admits that criminals are actually bad people. The outrage over using the term “ Good Samaritan “ is laughable if it weren’t so sad. Even invoking scripture: imagine that! I wonder what their take would be on “ The Good Samaritan Doctor performed the abortion for free” or “ The Good Samaritan Attorney defended the murderer pro bono” 

I’m betting that 99% of Americans don’t even understand the underlying teaching point of the story of the Good Samaritan. 

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