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On 5/16/2021 at 5:51 PM, B-Man said:

2-year-old girl among 37 shot in Chicago since Friday evening

Chicago Sun Times Wire (IL), by Staff

 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/5/15/22437535/chicago-weekend-shootings-may-14-may-17-crime-gun-violence-homicide

 

 

Chicago has very strict gun laws and this happens weekly.

 

Can it be explained without trying to blame neighboring states ?

 

 

The reason it is the neighboring towns is simple. Good honest people are not armed and criminals know that. In Indiana and Wisconsin the good and honest are likely armed therefore criminals don't go there. Taking away the ability of good people to defend themselves is stupid.

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CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY ONE STEP CLOSER TO ABBOTT’S DESK:

 

The bill, HB 1927, initially passed the House, and later passed the Senate with amendments. Because the House refused to concur with the Senate’s amendments, the bill went to a conference committee comprised of five House and five Senate members to hash out differences.

 

The 10 legislators announced that they have reached a full agreement on the bill, which is now expected to pass both chambers this week. Gov. Greg Abbott says he will sign the bill.

 

Once he does, Texas would become the 21st state to adopt a constitutional carry law. Texas is one of the only Republican-led states that has not passed a constitutional carry bill.

 

In constitutional carry states, residents can legally carry a firearm without a license or any other government-applied restriction, ConcealedCarryStates.org explains.

 

Vermont has never restricted the right for adults to carry a firearm. Alaska was the first state to rescind its concealed carry permit requirement in 2003.

 

Abbott said that constitutional carry was a priority legislative item this year and declared that Texas would become a sanctuary state for the Second Amendment after 20 states have already passed constitutional carry laws.

 

Current Texas law requires individuals to obtain a license and pay a fee in order to carry a handgun, which Sen. Charles Schwertner, R-Georgetown, says, restricts Texans’ Second Amendment rights. Schwertner filed the House’s companion bill in the Senate.

 

 

Related: “‘The simple truth is that those who intend evil… don’t care what we do in this building,’ State Rep. Matt Schaefer, a Tyler Republican who authored the bill. ‘We are charged with defending the freedoms that are owed to Texans and guaranteed by the constitution.’”

 

https://tylerpaper.com/news/texas/constitutional-carry-one-step-closer-to-abbott-s-desk/article_b7baad84-f63c-510a-8745-b284d427402d.html

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On 5/25/2021 at 12:20 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Louisiana GOP Sen. John Kennedy is up for re-election in 2022, and he’s not wasting any time working on his ad game:

 

 

 

She’s such a cementhead. Crime is a problem. Violent people - aka criminals are a problem. The gun is not the problem. 

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Whatever Chicago did.....let's do that:

 

 

 

Chicago sees another spike in shootings, with most killings in first 3 months of year since 2017

 

 

With a quarter of 2021 already over, it has so far been the deadliest year in Chicago in four years as the city saw another spike in gun violence even before the warmer-weather months arrived.

 

The spike follows an especially deadly 2020 that saw more than 760 people slain — among the worst years for violence in Chicago in two decades — as neighborhoods struggled through school closures, unemployment and other exacerbated societal ills arising largely from the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

The city recorded 131 slayings during the first three months of 2021, the most since 2017 when at least 140 people were killed in the first quarter of that year, Chicago police statistics show. The 131 killings so far in 2021 is a jump of about 34% over the same period last year, when there were 98, according to the statistics.

 

The number of total shooting victims, including those killed by gunfire, also continued to rise, with 706 through March 2021, a 43% increase over the year-earlier period, when there were 493 people shot, the statistics show. This year’s shooting tally is also the highest in Chicago since 709 were shot through March 2017, the statistics show.

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-prem-chicago-crime-first-quarter-2021-20210401-dprv6a7aj5g47m3vc74ovhlvaq-story.html

 

 

 

America has a problem.  

 

And it isn't guns.  

 

 

 

2020 COOK COUNTY DEATHS BREAK RECORDS DUE TO GUN VIOLENCE, OPIOID OVERDOSES, COVID-19, ME SAYS

 

Chicago crime statistics show shootings, murders up 50% in 2020; 2 shot by stray gunfire in South Chicago in first shooting of 2021

 

 

Chicago police also released the final crime number for 2020 Friday which showed that shootings and murders jumped up by more than 50% in 2020.

In 2020, there were 769 murders, up considerably compared to the 495 murders tallied in 2019.

 

As for shootings, the city logged 3,261 last year, a big jump from 2,140 shootings in 2019. The number of shooting victims climbed to 4,033 in 2020, up from 2,598 in 2019.

 

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootings-2020-shooting-crime-stats-statistics/9250374/

 

 

 

Something stress folks out in 2020?  

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Pandemic?! Don't you mean the riots?

 

I'm seeing this headline on the front page of the NYT website: "Pandemic Fuels Surge in U.S. Gun Sales ‘Unlike Anything We’ve Ever Seen.'"

 

Clicking through, I see the headline "An Arms Race in America: Gun Buying Spiked During the Pandemic. It’s Still Up. Preliminary research data show that about a fifth of all Americans who bought guns last year were first-time gun owners." 

 

It's absurd to state — as if it's a fact — that the pandemic "fueled" the surge when there were riots and the police stood down and did not protect the citizens! I personally got trained to use a gun last summer, and I fired a gun for the first time in my life. That had nothing to do with the pandemic. It was about civil disorder threatening my neighborhood and the manifest unwillingness of the city to keep order. You're on your own, we were told, quite plainly.

 

Let's see how obtusely the article avoids taking self-defense seriously. Guns aren't a way to defend yourself from the pandemic, so we look like idiots arming ourselves against that. I'd like to see if the NYT respects those of us who are actually thinking rationally about self-defense.

 

Paragraph 3 of the article alludes to the riots, but look how the NYT strains to undermine the rationality of decision to own a gun:

 

While gun sales have been climbing for decades — they often spike in election years and after high-profile crimes — Americans have been on an unusual, prolonged buying spree fueled by the coronavirus pandemic, the protests last summer and the fears they both stoked. 

 

Not "riots," not even "disorder" — "protests." As if the gun purchasers are afraid of ideas that were expressed. Buying guns was a "spree" — "spree" sounds irrational — and it was "fueled" — as if it's a fire — by "fear" — and that fear sounds irrational, because it's a reaction to "protests" and the pandemic — 2 things that are not properly addressed by owning a gun.  

 

In the sixth paragraph, we see some very interesting facts:

 

Click for more »

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2021/05/pandemic-dont-you-mean-riots.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/us/gun-purchases-ownership-pandemic.html?smid=url-share

 

 

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