Kellyto83TD Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) If MW can get his head on straight and bust ass and live up to his potential, we have a top 5-7 or so WR in the league. The kid can be a freak. I pray him coming back home to Buffalo will wake him up Edited April 6, 2014 by Kellyto83TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If MW can get his head on straight and bust ass and live up to his potential, we have a top 5-7 or so WR in the league. The kid can be a freak. I pray him coming back home to Buffalo will wake him up Or being back in Buffalo will reunite him with bad influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Or being back in Buffalo will reunite him with bad influences. I see you're a glass is half empty, why can't I have more in my glass, is that a hair in the glass?, kind of guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I see you're a glass is half empty, why can't I have more in my glass, is that a hair in the glass?, kind of guy... Actually I'm not, just the opposite as a matter of fact. I hope Mike Williams plays great for the Bills, but this whole think is a little head scratching. His history with Marrone, bringing a guy that has a history of partying back to where he grew up. I don't know, but just seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 And thinking to myself how jealous I was that the bucs had these big physical receivers that just seemed to manhandle defensive backs, take their lunch money (and the football) away from them and thinking how a QB for that team must just love the confidence that he had receivers that were open even when they were covered.... We just got one of them...... Before we get ahead of ourselves, he still has to beat out... Ramses Barden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We are pretty loaded at WR now. We are still developing Kauffman too who has a very high ceiling. We won't draft another QB until 2016 at the earliest since next year will be thin at QB due to so many JRs coming out this year. I still say we grab Mosley or Barr in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We are pretty loaded at WR now. We are still developing Kauffman too who has a very high ceiling. We won't draft another QB until 2016 at the earliest since next year will be thin at QB due to so many JRs coming out this year. I still say we grab Mosley or Barr in the first. Barr is going to be great IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 And thinking to myself how jealous I was that the bucs had these big physical receivers that just seemed to manhandle defensive backs, take their lunch money (and the football) away from them and thinking how a QB for that team must just love the confidence that he had receivers that were open even when they were covered.... We just got one of them...... Isnt mike williams shorter than stevie? Not really sure about big and physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Isnt mike williams shorter than stevie? Not really sure about big and physical. his legs are longer. His arms are longer. He plays much bigger and more physical than Stevie does. Edited April 6, 2014 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Isnt mike williams shorter than stevie? Not really sure about big and physical. MW is 3/8" shorter but 5# heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Actually I'm not, just the opposite as a matter of fact. I hope Mike Williams plays great for the Bills, but this whole think is a little head scratching. His history with Marrone, bringing a guy that has a history of partying back to where he grew up. I don't know, but just seems odd. Well, it was a trade so I can't say Mike Williams "wanted" to be here. But on the flip side of that coin, new environment for a "troubled" athlete can only be beneficial imo... Yes him and Marrone have a certain negative history, but I believe with the 1st big play he makes at the Ralph and hearing the Bills fans cheer, will make him feel right at home. Plus we have a pretty strong locker room chemistry or at least it seems that way from watching interviews of players. The absolute worst case scenario for us is that he sucks, or gets injured, or has another "issue" and we lose a 6th round pick. I can live with those odds especially if it actually benefits us and Williams becomes a contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If MW can get his head on straight and bust ass and live up to his potential, we have a top 5-7 or so WR in the league. The kid can be a freak. I pray him coming back home to Buffalo will wake him up Even if Mike Williams lives up to what he was in his better years in Tampa and Stevie does what he has done, we would still need Robert Woods and Goodwin to take that next step in order for the WR core to feature a full complement. Woods more so, I think Woods is very key to how that core develops. Of course adding a receiving tight end early in the draft would add another weapon for EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 his legs are longer. His arms are longer. He plays much bigger and more physical than Stevie does. MW is 3/8" shorter but 5# heavier. Gotcha. I've probably only watched him play a handful of games but I thought he was taller/bigger than what he is. I was surprised when I read on the Bills app that he's 6'1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Woods will end up being our #1 WR, Williams can easily take #2. I am on the fence with Stevie, I just can't see him as more than a pure #2 on any team. Bills fans have had a long history of thinking a #2/#3 was a pure #1 when they weren't. If someone wants Stevie as part of a trade draft time, I have to listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Mike WIlliams and Stevie might be roughly the same measurements......but when I look at them they dont play the same..... - Lets keep in mind that Stevie Johnson isnt exactly small......6 foot and over is still a good sized receiver. Eric Moulds was roughly the same size but he was a STRONG receiver......he roughed up defensive backs and took balls away in traffic. - Stevie is a unpredictable route runner which makes him a tough cover.....I never thought of him to be a particularly strong presense - Mike WIlliams is a leaper.....he catches balls in traffic.....he plays bigger then he is - Mike WIlliams looks to me to have a different kind of biuld......his wingspan appears to be longer......his upper body more thickly biult I am not a fan of getting rid of Stevie just because we got Mike WIlliams......I am a BIG fan of having Mike Williams, Stevie Johnson, and Robert Woods on the field as the same time. THat is 3 big receivers.....all talented.....all on the field. I think we need a tight end now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Gotcha. I've probably only watched him play a handful of games but I thought he was taller/bigger than what he is. I was surprised when I read on the Bills app that he's 6'1. He's 6' 1-1/2" which typically gets rounded up to 6'2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Or being back in Buffalo will reunite him with bad influences. Or being back in Buffalo will reunite him with good influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Or being back in Buffalo will reunite him with good influences. LOL. Overall I'm pleased. The guy put up good numbers with Freeman throwing him the ball down there in Tampa. Low risk, and high reward IMO. At 26, going on 27, he's in his prime right now. Mike WIlliams and Stevie might be roughly the same measurements......but when I look at them they dont play the same..... - Lets keep in mind that Stevie Johnson isnt exactly small......6 foot and over is still a good sized receiver. Eric Moulds was roughly the same size but he was a STRONG receiver......he roughed up defensive backs and took balls away in traffic. - Stevie is a unpredictable route runner which makes him a tough cover.....I never thought of him to be a particularly strong presense - Mike WIlliams is a leaper.....he catches balls in traffic.....he plays bigger then he is - Mike WIlliams looks to me to have a different kind of biuld......his wingspan appears to be longer......his upper body more thickly biult I am not a fan of getting rid of Stevie just because we got Mike WIlliams......I am a BIG fan of having Mike Williams, Stevie Johnson, and Robert Woods on the field as the same time. THat is 3 big receivers.....all talented.....all on the field. I think we need a tight end now I agree. Put Stevie in the slot and let him juke around all day to get open. Put Williams and Woods on the outside. Man if we could draft Ebron now, that would be a pretty damn good receiving corps: Williams, Stevie, Woods, Chandler, Ebron. Edited April 6, 2014 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I have a feeling they will try to pair him up with a mentor on the team to keep him on the straight and narrow. Laugh all you want, but I know there are players on other teams who have the same set up and it isn't public like some others - namely Dez Bryant, Pac Man Jones. Professional sports is just different, teams are willing to do this if they think the guy can help them win and isn't messed up in big-time stuff but just needs a good influence. The Bills may feel they have a more postive locker room vibe and stronger team atmosphere that could help him turn the corner. TB was not known for this last year, it was a train wreck down there. If he can't turn it around, he says good bye to millions. It is on him and the Bills will try to help him, so he can help them. Edited April 6, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I have a feeling they will try to pair him up with a mentor on the team to keep him on the straight and narrow. Laugh all you want, but I know there are players on other teams who have the same set up and it isn't public like some others - namely Dez Bryant, Pac Man Jones. Professional sports is just different, teams are willing to do this if they think the guy can help them win and isn't messed up in big-time stuff but just needs a good influence. . The Bills may feel they have a more postive locker room vibe and stronger team atmosphere that could help him turn the corner. TB was not known for this last year, it was a train wreck down there. If he can't turn it around, he says good bye to millions. It is on him and the Bills will try to help him, so he can help them. Honestly and for real. Have Stevie big brother him . I know the age thing but Stevie is a family man and grounded and loves the Bills Edited April 6, 2014 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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