BillnutinHouston Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Your body fills out a lot from 21 to 25, so there is still a ton of room for growth. Wait til you see what happens after you turn 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Nothing like giving up on someone 11 games into his NFL career. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 well said, I could not agree more Nothing like giving up on someone 11 games into his NFL career. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 He's 22 years old and hasn't had a single offseason to bulk up. Way, way too early.. He already put on what, 25-30 pounds last offeseason? And he's gonna do it again? I don't think so. He blows, was never worth the #11 overall pick, and will never be a starting DE in the NFL. Period. And all the "too smart for the rest of us" crew will be saying the same thing, only 2 years down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Nothing like giving up on someone 11 games into his NFL career. Idiots. well said, I could not agree more Even dumber is sticking your head in the sand. Maybin blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Even dumber is sticking your head in the sand. Maybin blows. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. We won't know for sure for a couple years. Giving up on a project 11 games into his career is just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't recall anyone ever saying that about Bruce Smith. It's perfectly obvious to me that Maybin was drafted in anticipation of DJ being fired and a defensive switch to a 3-4 scheme. They are letting him take his licks now at DE thinking that he will be prepared to be a dominating LB in the 3-4. At least, I would like to think that is the logic there. It has also been obvious to me that the guy was born to be an OLB and until we see him utilized in that way, I think it is premature to call him a bust. But it is more than clear that we can all forget about him ever playing DE at a satisfactory level in the NFL. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. 1) They drafted last year in anticipation of firing Dick Jauron and completely replacing the defensive scheme? You don't honestly believe that, do you? You think DJ was anticipating his own demise? 2) He never played OLB in college, how exactly is he 'born' to be one? Because he's too small to be DE? Does Maybin have the recognition skills to play LB? Does he have the lateral quickness? Can he cover? Can he take on guards at the second level? I think you should be able to answer all these questions - and you can't - before you start saying he was 'born' to play OLB. Look, I really, really hope I'm wrong on this. But I think now, more than ever, that Maybin is a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. 1) They drafted last year in anticipation of firing Dick Jauron and completely replacing the defensive scheme? You don't honestly believe that, do you? You think DJ was anticipating his own demise? 2) He never played OLB in college, how exactly is he 'born' to be one? Because he's too small to be DE? Does Maybin have the recognition skills to play LB? Does he have the lateral quickness? Can he cover? Can he take on guards at the second level? I think you should be able to answer all these questions - and you can't - before you start saying he was 'born' to play OLB. Look, I really, really hope I'm wrong on this. But I think now, more than ever, that Maybin is a bust. I think it is more likely that the Bills might eventually "dumb themselves" into the move but he is pretty much right on. Most 3-4 OLB's play DE in college so it's not as far-fetched as you're making it out to be. Yes, Maybin was born the play 3-4 OLB and he will likely be next year with the names that have been thrown around for Head Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Can anyone imagine this board if WE had drafted Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Can anyone imagine this board if WE had drafted Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush? BWAHAHA! I really hope you're not implying Maybin will turn out to be anywhere near MW. More like Erik Flowers. I really cannot recall an NFL player getting as consistently tossed around like a rag doll as Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 BWAHAHA! I really hope you're not implying Maybin will turn out to be anywhere near MW. More like Erik Flowers. I really cannot recall an NFL player getting as consistently tossed around like a rag doll as Maybin. Guess we'll see. I have to laugh at all the experts around here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Can anyone imagine this board if WE had drafted Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush? I don't see the similarities at all. The biggest issue with drafting Maybin is he was/is a project. The BILLS aren't in a position to take on projects when there was tremendous value on the board when they selected. I don't know if Maybin's a bust and frankly it's stupid to even waste the energy talking about it at this point. I do KNOW the BILLS made a mistake picking him, at a minimum in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't see the similarities at all. The biggest issue with drafting Maybin is he was/is a project. The BILLS aren't in a position to take on projects when there was tremendous value on the board when they selected. I don't know if Maybin's a bust and frankly it's stupid to even waste the energy talking about it at this point. I do KNOW the BILLS made a mistake picking him, at a minimum in the short term. All I'm saying is we write off players way to soon. I mean it's ridiculous. The kid is a 22 year old rookie. There is no point in talking about it right now, but I get sick of players getting slammed up and down this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. We won't know for sure for a couple years. Giving up on a project 11 games into his career is just plain stupid. This is where I disagree. A very wise caoch was once quoted as saying the key to his success was his ability to tell the difference between a donkey and a race horse...Maybin is no race horse, it is clearly evident - we do not need any more film to clarify this. He is not nearly and never will be stout enough to stand up against the run - no center of gravity on that bean pole body. Take the lack of sacks out of the picture - he is so raw, our coaching staff barely uses him ahead of...Kris Kelsey? One day, he may mature and learn enough technique to be a serviceable OLB or rushing end in this league, but as the 11th pick - a wasteful bust, just like Whitner....just like Lynch. Serviceable and parhaps will have a career, but for where we took them - bad moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Can we all at least agree that Chris Ellis is truly a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcape Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 i was at the game so couldn't see a replay, but who was that that came blitzing thru the dolphins line and hit williams making him throw the pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Can we all at least agree that Chris Ellis is truly a bust? - Complete waste of a roster spot. If only we had kept Hargrove instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 i was at the game so couldn't see a replay, but who was that that came blitzing thru the dolphins line and hit williams making him throw the pick? THE ALMIGHTY POZ CAME THRU ON A DELAYED BLITZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 - Complete waste of a roster spot. If only we had kept Hargrove instead.... do you not recall Hargrove using up his third and fourth opportunities with Buffalo? He was suspended for a year iirc for violating the substance policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 do you not recall Hargrove using up his third and fourth opportunities with Buffalo? He was suspended for a year iirc for violating the substance policy. Back in the league my friend...back in New Orleans - 29 tackles and 3 sacks as a situational player.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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