The Big Cat

Amazing how we can watch the same player and arrive at wildly different takeaways.

Are you referring to Johnson or Woods??

I knew the implication wouldn't pass YOU by!

According to the numbers, Stevie could have gotten him there alone...and still been our worst receiver. Hurt so bad you used an already cut HB (Choice) and an excel or be cut receiver (Graham) to make your point?

Yeah but he REALLY liked the City of Buffalo (when he wasn't living elsewhere during the offseason)

Takes two to tango.

Please note: the 2-10 Texans were not yet eliminated from the playoffs in 2012. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24350059/houstonjacksonville-elimination-watch

Yeah, it's like watching powerful, wealthy men who don't like talking to the media repeat the same deflections all the time.

I hope that's not what OBD considers "finishing."

Nice adds. Although "Kelly lost his battle today..." that might sting a bit more too.

I think there's a misunderstanding here. That would be quite the feat since they play the Pats* coming off their bye, and don't face the Niners at all.

Discuss

I'll concede that there were a number of contributing factors. But I will say, he had a BAD year. And it wasn't JUST Hacketts fault. In fact I'd say, at most, 15% of the blame belongs to Hackett.

Parse the stats all you want, attribute blame wherever you please: do you think CJ had a good year last year? Yes or no.

May be he doesn't think Spiller is good enough to build an offense around. Or may be he thinks the offense you would build around him isn't the one you need to win a championship. Is it fair to assume the reality of either of those things? I think so. I also think it's clear (as has already been mentioned here), Marrone wants a guy he can rely on getting 3-6 yards each and every time. It's my opinion that a back that can consistently produce (there's that word again) pays greater dividends in the wins column than a guy who goes 2, 4, 1, 0, 6, -2, 1, 3, 1, -4, 68, like Spiller does.

I liked them too. But many did not. I thought Spiller should get more touches. Was Gailey crazy like a fox? May be. I'm also adamant that lining four wide with Spiller in the backfield means you've got three and a half solid lineman protecting any number of quarterbacks who simply cannot mask the line's deficiencies with quick reads and throws like Fitz did. I'm not sure what has some posters convinced that would have gone well.

What relevance does this platitude have in regards to a rookie OC with no QB's coach scheming for: A rookie QB an UDRFA QB A QB with one start to his name who joined the team just prior to the fourth preseason game What were your expectations for the offense? Did posters here really expect/want a continuation of the Gailey offense?--which (for those who don't have selective amnesia) was a brilliant patch job, but not much else.

And you can say, with utmost certainty, that Hacket never ran any of those? Or, at the very least, ran them with significantly less frequency compared to Gailey? You think (with CJ in the backfield) that last year's O-Line would have been reliable without a TE in to help? It seems to be that you (like most Hackett detractors) base your criticisms on the reality you want, not the reality our rookie OC was dealing with. I don't know. May be three quarterbacks with a combined one start. Two rookie wide outs. A perpetually nicked up Stevie. A gaping hole at LG. A turnstile at RT. And, oh yeah, the fact that Fred Jackson and (yes) Tashard Choice didn't seem to struggle finding space up the middle. Why does CJ get a pass when his bad seasons out number is good ones 2.75/1.25?

I agree with all points above. I also challenge everyone who suddenly remembers Gailey using Spiller "correctly." I'm shocked to see a sudden fondness for the spread offense that drove so many posters bananas. I guess nobody remembers being up in arms about it being "Fred's turn." All we wanted was for the man to get more touches. Hackett made that happen, and CJ biffed it. I'm glad somebody else finally made the point about how badly the Bills executed screens last year. To that point, I'm still waiting for someone to define "get him in space" as something other than: The Spread Screens Folks complained about Gailey's playcalling, now turn around and complain about Hackett's because it isn't Gailey's. At some point, CJ has to learn to hit the holes that are created for him. Until then, we can't belly ache about the play calls our players aren't executing.

Assuming this thread sucks, what happens if EJ makes the Pro Bowl.

Yeah, it's a good listen. Entertaining, thought provoking, and him and Rank (Rank especially) really know there stuff when it comes to NFL history.

http://davedameshek.nfl.com/ I listen to this show. I like it. Interview comes in may be 30-40 mins in.

I mean, it'll look sharp...but DAMN...now THAT'S a change.

I would be fine with a dome if...and only if...it was engineered to trap and maximize sounds. Some domes are like acoustic vacuums. What fun is that?

Just leave.