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  1. 30 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

     

    I don't disagree with that but the QBs in the AFC are better than the QBs in the AFC when Brady played. Plus I think the division will be more difficult than what the AFC East provided Brady especially with Harbaugh in the mix. The AFC is just absolutely stacked with talent and it's going to be tough to come out of that conference year in and year out: Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Stroud, Lamar, Richardson and to a lesser degree Tua and Lawrence. I mean half the teams in the conference have a good QB and 5 have elite (Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Texans and Ravens). 

     

    The thing is Mahomes probably has 12 years to win 4 to catch Brady. I doubt he'll have the longevity that Brady had and I doubt without his mobility he'll be as good as he is now (same with Allen and that's especially true with Lamar; imo once Lamar doesn't have elite speed he'll be cooked). Brady really only had Manning and Big Ben in the AFC. By the time won his second Superbowl to the time he left New England the only 4 QBs that were in the Superbowl on the AFC side were Brady, Manning, Big Ben and Flacco. Hell even since that second SB you can add only Mahomes and Burrow. 21 years and only 6 QB made it. 19 years and only 4 QBs.

     

    Manning (top 3-4 qb all time now that Mahomes is closing in on him) and Big Ben are actually HoF qbs. The only other AFC qb with HoF chances right now is Lamar because of the 2 MVPs. At least Brady had Manning as a challenger, the rest of the AFC qbs so far are unproven pretenders.

  2. 4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

    My point went right over your head.

     

    With Allen BB will likely bring the Lombardi Trophy to Buffalo. 

     

    BB + Allen = Lombardi Trophy

     

    McD + Allen = 44% playoff record

    What's the proof allen is as good as brady? BB's philosophy is to give his qb nothing on offense and spend everything on defense. Allen needed Diggs to win anything and hasn't even broken any passing record. Brady made it work with scrubs here and there only to break every passing record when he got Moss. Allen has also led the league in turnovers and has shown no clutch gene in the playoffs. If you used Mahomes as example maybe you'll have a point, but Allen? Lmao

  3. 31 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

     

    The 1990’s the NFL quarterback’s are like now. 2000 through 2010 Phillip Rivers never won anything Tom Brady had to deal with Ben Roelisburger of the Pittsburgh Steelers and, and. Trent Edwards, JP Losman, Mark Sanchez and a washed up Brett Favre is some great quarterback’s for Tom Brady to go through in the AFC East then the AFC. Tom Brady was great but he ran away on purpose to the NFC for a easier lane to the playoffs with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when he saw the reality of Josh Allen and Tua in the AFC East. The reality is Tom Brady beat a lot of bum Quarterbacks in the AFC East with the Buffalo Bills, New York Jets and Miami Dolphins to pad the New England Patriots win totals for home field. Today Tom Brady would have more difficulty because the quarterback’s in this 2020’s NFL era is like the 1990’s NFL era for quarterback’s. So no I don’t think Patrick Mahomes will come close to matching Tom Brady number of Super Bowls wins. We can agree to disagree in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

    Lol my favorite Bills Mafia delusion is Brady ran from the AFC because of Tua and Josh Allen. LMAO. This is the guy who is Peyton ***** Manning's rival and played at the same time as Rodgers, Brees and Favre. He beat Mahomes in the playoffs twice, as a geriatric 40 year old, he ain't afraid of no Tua or Josh Allen lol. Allen can't even get to a super bowl with his youth and with a stacked team. If Brady was at his prime when these qbs came out they'd all lose to Brady too. He was 40+ at the time they emerged so of course he'll slow down. Imagine thinking winning trophies in the NFL were ever east at any point in time.

     

    while the 90s had good qbs none of them were at the same level as Brady and Manning who are literally 2/3 of the best qbs to ever play. You look down on Ben but he won ***** and had decent longevity. How many of the current qbs have won ***** and are not already breaking down not even 10 years into their tenure? You need to multiply the talent level of this current qbs by 5 to get to the level of qb play of the 00s-10s. They are all flash in the pans until proven otherwise. Only Mahomes has proven *****. Everyone else is probably going to have mid careers. Look at the mediocrity at the qb position this year as well as the fragility from injury. Not even close. 

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  4. 21 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

    there are more good quarterbacks now today compared to when Tom Brady was playing in the NFL 

    Bro the AFC was top heavy in the 00s-10s. 3 actual HoF qbs were playing at the same time and one HoVG (Rivers). Right now only Mahomes is HoF. Everyone else is flash in the pan, until proven otherwise

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  5. On 10/12/2023 at 6:06 PM, Gugny said:


    I don’t know, man. He had a top tier QB and assembled teams around him to help them become the greatest dynasty the NFL will ever see. 
     

    We’ve had Josh Allen for six years. SIX. And nothing. 
     

    I know Im “supposed” to hate Belichick, but I don’t. 
     

    As awesome as Brady was, he didn’t win all of those games by himself. 
     

    Belichick deserves credit for that. 

    You're assuming Allen is on Brady's level. Sorry to say Josh Allen isn't Tom Brady tier. Maybe Mahomes is. 

  6. 44 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

     

     

    If BB were 20 years younger , I could se it.  But even if true, not likely he'd be around long enough to enjoy the good years Williams may provide.  Could see Kraft wanting that, but if Kraft told BB that, think he's try to win even harder.  As others have said can't see BB accepting that as to him  passing Shula in wins is more important.  Plus think overall Pats have too much talent to lose enough to get the #1 overall.


    Kraft is even older than BB so does it matter lol

  7. On 2/6/2023 at 12:45 PM, Success said:

     

    The QB situation in the AFC is WAY better now.  Brady basically had to get past Manning to get to the SB.  Rivers never had the teams to compete, and wasn't close to Brady/Manning level. Big Ben was never in the top tier, imo.

     

    The AFC is completely stacked right now.  Maybe there are only 3 at the "elite" level, but there are 3-4 more knocking on that door.  The QB play is so much better today than it was 10 years ago.

     

    I think the reason there is a perceived amount of "stacked" talent at qb compared to previous eras is because everyone is starting out and in their physical primes. Nobody knows what these qbs careers are going to eventually look like, so they're judged based on what their futures could be, thus everyone is "good" and the league is "stacked". Guys like Herbert and Lawrence are talented but haven't proven anything. Lamar seems like a one hit wonder in 2019 and cannot stay healthy. Guys like Cam Newton and Russell Wilson started out hot then slowly flamed out as they aged. Thus when you look back at the previous era, it looks less "stacked" because only a select handful actually remained competitive year in and out.
     

    Ultimately time will show only 2 or so of these qbs will actually be HoF worthy, and you'll look back at this era as less stacked because only those qbs remained relevant. 

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  8. On 2/6/2023 at 11:38 AM, TheFunPolice said:

    Oh, and the Belichick deserves no credit. Even though he has 8 SB rings and Brady will always have fewer. 


    Eh I don't really count his two rings as DC. Guys like Toilet Bowles has a ring as a DC and McDaniels has multiple rings as OC. They can't ***** coach and drag their teams to winning records to save their lives. DC/OC success doesn't translate to HC success. You can be the best DC an just be an average and even trash coach. 
     

    But to be fair to Belichick, he is an above average coach and like any other coach in that tier, can win with the right roster. But like any other above average coach he has a ceiling without the GOAT qb (see Andy Reid now that he has a qb better than Alex Smith). The problem is he doesn't seem to have a clue how to build his roster without prime Brady as a crutch to cover all the deficiencies/dumb decisions he has been making. He has always seemed allergic to getting his qb offensive help. That may have worked with Tom Brady dragging short white receivers to the super bowl (other than the two years they had Moss and the one day they had AB) with Gronk hurt half the time, but Mac Jones needs a LOT more help. Until he figures that out (or Mac Jones suddenly becomes Mahomes lol), the Pats will be flopping around with maybe a playoff appearance here and there, but never over the hump. 

  9. 11 hours ago, Success said:

    I was checking the Pats boards for an update, and one of their fans actually said that he didn't think Mac could be like Brady, but that he could definitely get to the level of someone like Aaron Rogers.

     

    A fan said that.

     

    Lol even getting to Kirk Cousins is being generous 

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  10. 17 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

     

    I'll preface by saying everyone knows how good Brady is, but that Tampa team was LOADED on both sides of the ball.  

     

    Jameis had just come off of a 5,000 yard season with the same squad, minus Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown.  

    Lol lots of "loaded" teams don't make super bowls year after year. Super Bowls are extremely hard to win. And frankly they aren't won just by being "loaded". 


    The Bills are also "loaded" right now. If we win the Super Bowl does that discredit Josh Allen because his team was loaded? Bet you'd be the first one defending him when the haters come. Same goes with any qb, including Brady.

  11. 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:


    To play devils advocate the Pats did go 10-5 without Brady in 2008, they were 3-1 without Brady the year he got suspended deflategate. And last year they were 10-7 with a rookie QB. 
     

    So it isn’t like Billy B hasn’t had some success without Brady. That being said I think this season is going to be the measuring stick. Not that the Pats have to win it all but getting another playoff birth is huge to help dispel the Brady was the driver of success narrative. If the Pats go under .500 and miss the playoffs that narrative only strengthens.

    I disagree with this. Playoff berth is not enough. He needs to go deep in the playoffs without Brady. Lots of coaches are good enough to get to the playoffs but fall apart once they get there. I don't really see how barely squeaking into a wild card spot again is supposed to help his legacy. A deep playoff run will.

  12. 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:


    Paywalls suck? ;) 😆 

     

     

     

    I think we have seen that it was more Tainted Tom and Belicheat (good coaching) 

     

    Lets see what the old man Tammy  👴 does with the new HC Bowles


    mmm 😋 🥓 🥓 

     

    I just finished making 🥓 

    Pretty sure Brady was the offensive coach from the day they turned their offense around mid 2020, with Bowles managing the defense. Arians was on chillax mode lol. So really their coaching staff didn't change in that regard. 

  13. On 8/21/2022 at 9:51 PM, Sestak4ever said:

    Name one other player that can get time away from his team for a similar reason. There are none. What do his teammates think? I would be pissed to say the least. We were always told at practice that there are no prima donas. Obviously that is not the case with Marcia.

    Are you for real? Dude has won 7 super bowls and brought that loser franchise a ring. He can do whatever he wants. No other player has earned that privilege.

  14. 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

     

    I don't know why so many Bills fans are triggered by this. Who really cares honestly.

     

    But as I've said all along, Jones is a good player and had a great rookie season especially when compared to some of the all time/HOF type players rookie campaigns. He wasn't the sole reason the Pats bounced back and made the playoffs last year but he was a big part of it.

     

    Doesn't mean he's destined for Canton just yet but if he continues to develop and gets better the Pats certainly have their next franchise QB for the next 15 years, so if that's what has some fans hot and bothered over this I certainly understand.

    People always underestimate how hard it is to find a franchise qb and overestimate how long qbs actually last. 15 years is a stretch for someone like Mac Jones lol. You're just traumatized because Brady lasted 20 years. He was not normal. 

  15. 10 hours ago, Success said:

    Anyone ever check the Pats boards?  The perception of Jones is radically different from what it is here or anywhere else.  I'd say most of their fans think he's going to be elite, and some even agree w/ Schrager that he could be a dark horse for MVP.

     

    Regardless, he's pretty decent, and I'm inclined to think both Tua and Wilson will be capable QB's.  We aren't going to get the cakewalk of a division that the Pats got for 2 decades - which is kind of a bummer, but also a bit more fun. 

     

    Barring anything unforeseen, I'd agree w/ most that the division should be ours fairly easily (I don't expect the team to buy into the hype like they did last year, which led to some lapses like the Jags game).  

     

    Beyond that, I see a lot of close division games deciding the rest of the order.  I'd probably pick Miami #2, Pats #3 and Jets #4, but big improvement from the Jets would hardly surprise me.

     

    Pats fans just aren't used to having a mid qb. They think because Mac Jones is kinda like Brady he's automatically gonna be Brady. They have no awareness of how hard it is to find an actual elite qb or to win a super bowl. Spoiled af.

     

    Personally I think Mac Jones' ceiling is Tannehill or Jimmy G. Can fool you into thinking your qb is good enough if the rest of the team is elite, but you're really just prolonging your agony about whether he's good enough to win your team a championship. 

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  16. 20 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

     

    *sigh* Yeah.  LOOK at Tampa Bay.  The most talent he's ever had.  About 5 QBs could have won a Super Bowl with that squad.

    Lol I love hypothetical arguments. Allen didn't win a super bowl with a strong squad the last couple years. We had a better team and record in 2020. Rodgers didn't win with a strong Packers team these past couple years. They had a better team (at least in 2020) and record. Brees and the Saints had a better team and record in 2020 too.
     

    About 5 qbs my ass

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